Genealogy Chat

Thank you everyone for your help. I got the information with the help of someone on another Forum. Heart Attack off Aden serving as 4th. Engineer.

I have tried the military route and could find nothing. I therefore came to the conclusion that he was Merchant Navy. This registration would be a very big coincidence if two Scrimgeour's died so close together,even in War. My grandmother's maiden name was Thiel, but they called themselves Shiells to avoid the German inference. She married in Gateshead a few months before the birth of David (not 9) and they set out to a new life in India very soon afterwards, I think leaving the boy behind, probably with my grandfathers parents in Dundee.
The information on BT334 would very much help to confirm he is the uncle I didn't know I had

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: SCRIMGEOUR, David M
Registration district: Gateshead
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1917
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Shiell
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 1611


or

Civil Registration event: Birth

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Name: SCRIMGEOUR, David M
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1927
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Brown
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 645

but too young to have been in the forces in 1940!!

the ref for DA which yoi can get a death cert for
verseas registration event: Death

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Name: SCRIMGEOUR, David A
Vessel: British Architect
Country: At sea
Year: 1940
Page: 33
Age at death: 21
Record source: GRO Marine Death Indices (1903 to 1965)

waht was mums maiden name.

if he died in WW2 his death should be on CWGC site and the Forces death records

For info...

'Tracing your Ancestors in the National Archives' states that the death entries in BT 334 record.
Name of ship
Official number
Port of registry
Date of death
Place of death
Name of deceased
Sex
Age
Rating (For seamen)
Rank or profession or occupation (non seamen)
Nationality and birthplace
Last place of abode
Cause of death
Remarks

If you cannot find someone to search for you then you could order an estimate from the NA for the cost of copying the required entry.

http://tinyurl.com/6roawxr
And then click on 'ordering and viewing options'.

Good luck
Chris

That is my man. I am hoping that there is more information about him than this. I didn't know this uncle existed until I went to Dundee while on holiday and found a family gravestone. I was always told my mother was an only child. The gravestone says he is buried in Aden and that he died on 26th Feb 1940 and was called David Malcolm Scrimgeour, but this is the nearest I have got. I would drive to Kew myself,but have a motorhome which doesn't pass muster with the emissions rules

?? this one too which fits in with your info
gistration event: death

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Name: SCRIMGEOUR, D A
Date of death: March 1940
Age:
Place of death:
Place of birth:
Belonging to service:
Ship's name: British Architect
Series: BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box: 0095

Is this him??
SCRIMGEOUR, DENIS ALLAN

Rank:
Warrant Officer
Service No:
401783
Date of Death:
04/02/1942
Age:
21
Regiment/Service:
Royal New Zealand Air Force
Grave Reference
Coll. grave 34. C. 10-13.
Cemetery
KRANJI WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Arthur Raymond Scrimgeour, and of Phyllis Scrimgeour (nee Lewis), of Richmond, Nelson, New Zealan

If anyone is going to Kew and could spare a little time could you possibly look up :- Series BT 334- Register and indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea. Box 0095 for a Death at sea of D A Scrimgeour who died March 1940 on board 'British Architect'.
I believe he is my uncle.
Any help would be kindly received