Genealogy Chat

Around 1770-1812 in the diocese of York and for a lesser period in the dioceses of Sarum, Bristol and Durham, much more information was recorded. Namely the name of the child and parents, date of birth of the child, birthplaces of the parents and the names and addresses of the two sets of grandparents and the occupations of the father and both grandfathers.

It's a real bonus when you come across one of those entries.

Well, we can all meet up then send the others away and talk about them afterwards ... !!

Hi Adeline

Sounds like that Minister was a genealogist of the future. Maybe he hoped that sometime, people would want to find their kin.

Jan. End of August sounds briliant. Shall we see if the others can go too or make it just us and gossip about them ;-)

Morning guys :-D Just kidding

I have found several baptisms in Welsh parish records where the place of birth and the names of both parents are shown as well as the father's occupation and all this has been included on familysearch. It was particularly useful to have the extra detail as the surname involved was Williams!

Maybe the minister at St. Phillips was particularly keen then! Thanks Jill.
See you soon I hope. How about end of August for another raid on B'ham archives?
Jan x

Hi Jan,

I saw the same sort of thing a couple of weeks ago. It struck me as unusual then. nI can't remember now who I was looking up. But it was Birmingham and quite possibly it was St. Phillips.

I have some old IGI microfiche photocopies of some of my surnames. I'll input some of the St.Phillips ones onto FamilySearch and see how much info shows up for them.

See you soon.

xxJ

Thanks for the opinion Jonesey. I don't look up parish records very often, so wasn't sure if I just hadn't come across it. I have had one or two lucky breaks - two ancestors have which (other) county they were born in on 1841 census. Now, that IS unusual!
Jan :-)

Jan,

I think that it is unusual to find the child's exact birthplace detailed on what of course is a church record.

I suppose that it depended upon the enthusiasm of the minister as to what detail was recorded. For example some parish records show a birth date as well as the date of baptism. This extra fact is often very helpful in confirming that the record is indeed that of the person whose life we are following.

Sorry, stupid me. I meant stating his exact birthplace.
Apologies.
Jan

Please clarify the point you are making - which part of the entry is 'unusual'?

Like mgnv, it doesn't look any different to me from records that I have been finding for several months, on the new familysearch site ............ www.familysearch.org/

That's the beta site they were testing

Doesn't look too unusual to me - what specifically are you referring to?

Just found this on Familysearch - very handy, but I am wondering how common this is? have never seen such an entry before.

Name: James Eccleston
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 31 Jul 1815
Baptism/Christening Place: Birmingham, Warwick, England
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1815
Father's Name: James Eccleston
Mother's Name: Ann
Birthplace: Canal Street, Birmingham
Father's Name: James Eccleston
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01683-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 502183 Reference Number: yr 1813-1832 p 14


Name: James Ecclestone Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 31 Jul 1815
Baptism/ChristeningPlace:SAINTPHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1815
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04179-6 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 813718, 813719

Jan