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Where is Halnburg???

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Heather

Heather Report 22 Sep 2012 11:01

One of my relatives has come up on several census forms as coming from abroad, on one it says they are a Nationalised British Subject on another it says they come from Halnburg. I have looked on many maps trying to find Halnburg but am having no luck at the moment, could it be the place name has changed since 1827 if so does anyone know what or where it would have been? On one form it says Hamburg so is Halnburg and Hamburg the same place? Help please somebody I am really stuck?
Thank you for any help you can give.
Heather

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Sep 2012 11:03

Maybe its a mistranscription sounds more like it should be Hamburg

Heather

Heather Report 22 Sep 2012 11:40

Thats what I thought it might be a mistranscription but it seems a daunting task trying to research some one from Germany, or Poland or Austria as each country has a place with just one letter difference from Halnburg :-(
I did wonder if it was an old name for Hamburg though?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Sep 2012 12:21

Sorry to state the obvious Heather, but have you looked at the image yourself in case the transcriber has made an error?
Jan

Heather

Heather Report 22 Sep 2012 12:58

I have now found three census entries one says Halnburg one says Nationalised British Subject and one says Hamburg, all written very clearly, rumours are that this relative came from Poland though, confused, I am. :-(
Thanks for your help.
Heather

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Sep 2012 14:01

Can you point us to the one which says Halnburg? can't see this word on any Ancestry entries.
Jan

Thelma

Thelma Report 22 Sep 2012 16:20

Emanuel Lazarus
Spouse: Emily Lazarus
Birth: abt 1827 - Habnburg Bs
Residence: 1851 - Holborn St Andrew, Middlesex, England

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Sep 2012 16:27

Thanks Thelma!
Well, it does say Hamburg quite clearly elsewhere as you say. This says birthplace Prussia. I think this works for hamburg.:

1871 England Census

Name: Emanuel Lazarus
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Lazarus
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western

Emanuel Lazarus 40
Harriet Lazarus 38
Rose Lazarus 4

Heather

Heather Report 22 Sep 2012 19:41

1851 census for
Emanuel Lazarus dob 1826 Capmaker
wife Emily Lazarus (nee Pollock)
daughter
Amy
Rebecca
States that Emmanuel is Halnburg British Subject

Hope this helps.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Sep 2012 20:32

The 1891 census definitely says Hamburg:-

1891 census transcription details for: 3, Artesian Road, Paddington

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 11
Folio: 64
Page: 1
Reg. District: Paddington
Sub District: St Mary Paddington
Parish: Paddington
Enum. District: 38
Ecclesiastical District: St Luke
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 3, Artesian Road, Paddington
County: London

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

LAZARUS, Emanuel Head Married M 64 1827 Cap Maker
Hamburg
LAZARUS, Emma Wife Married F 44 1847
Margate, Kent
MORRIS, Martha Lodger Single F 39 1852 Artist
Woodbach, Shropshire
WALBY, Jessie H Lodger Single F 28 1863 Governess
London
BECKERSON, Eva Lodger Single F 26 1865 Dressmaker
London
LYONS, Ellen Servant Single F 20 1871
London

I'd say the other names are just mis-transcriptions of Hamburg.

Kath. x

Heather

Heather Report 23 Sep 2012 16:33

Thank you everyone. :)
Heather x