Genealogy Chat

Hi,

I am a relative beginner when it comes to family history.

I am researching trying to find my grandfathers parents who may or may not be alive, but to also find out if they had any further children.

My grandfather and his 2 siblings were placed in a children's home end of 1940's. His parents married when in early 20's in Norwich area, they separated sometime around 1940, put their children into care and then his mother remarried and moved to greater London.

After 1950 I cannot find either of them. I have found my grandfathers, grandfather, uncles, aunts, cousins and details of them such as birth and death years if relevant. I just cannot find anything on his parents.

For those more experience what would be the next viable step, I can't see how they just vanished, I have searched for his mother in her maiden name, 1st marriage and the last known marriage name and cannot find an electorol, death for her. I am really struggling and it would be great if someone could give me some advice on what I could do next.

I would be so grateful for any guidance,

from a very confused beginner!!

Can we please have info to help you with this request

Full names and dates of birth or year of birth etc of the people you are trying find

BMD's after about 1950 are only on subscription sites.

Do you have access to any of them?

If not..................post details, so that those of us who do can try to help you

Thank you, I am looking for a Thomas Mitchell born 1913 - Portsmouth Hampshire and Rita Hickey unknown birth date or location (between 1917-1919) father is John Hickey.

Thomas Samuel Mitchell and Rita Hickey married in Norwich 1933 (I believe) and divorced. Rita Hickey remarried Andrew Dick 1950 and they lived in Greenford Middlesex.

As I say after her marriage I cannot find her wherabouts, nor can I find anything for Thomas Mitchell and to be honest I am not really sure where to look so I would be most grateful for advice on where to begin.

Thomas Mitchell was a royal gunner and I have the location of barracks and his number, but not sure if this would help me do any further searches on him and if so where I would look

Grateful for your time and advice

"Rita Hickey"..........sounds Irish.

Where did you find out her father's name?

Rita seems to have married for a third time in 1965.......to a Mr Crout

No death in England/Wales up to 2006..............

You need to make yourself familiar with freebmd....................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/


Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%)
Hickey Rita Mitchell Norwich 4b 382
Mitchell Thomas Hickey Norwich 4b 382

Where did you get your info about a second forename for the man?

Presumably, this is the birth to which you refer.....................

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Mitchell Thomas Thomas Portsmouth 2b 730

Rita's third husband.............if my findings of a marriage are accurate

Death
Name: CROUT, Harold Leslie
Registration district: Ealing
County: London
Year of registration: 2000
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:23 May 1918
District no: 2261B
Reg no: B42D
Ent no: 132
DOR: 200

The informant's details may prove helpful............the cert will cost £9.25 if you order it online from the GRO

This is the marriage.....................

Harold L Crout married Rita Dick
Name: CROUT, Harold L
Registration district: Ealing
County: London
Year of registration: 1965
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Dick
Volume no: 5E
Page no: 445

Thank you for your reply.

Thomas Mitchell - I have a birth certificate for him. I also know his father is John Samuel Mitchell and his wife who had several other children (uncannily the first or middle names of the the three generations are all very similar)

John Hickey I know is Rita Hickey's father as I have the marriage certificate for the marriage between Rita Hickey and Thomas Mitchell - which confirms father of Rita Hickey is a deceased farmer. On the marriage certificate for Rita Hickey and Andrew Dick - it confirms Rita Hickey is the divorced wife of Thomas Mitchell and her father is John Hickey deceased farmer.

I will make myself familiar with freebmd

Interesting re the third marriage. I also see a marriage in 1960's a Mr Terence G Presant to a Hickey in Norwich however I don't know if this is her. Maybe I will have purchase these certificates to find out.

Thank you

Rita Crout appears on the ER for 2002.............in Middlesex

No-one else listed with her in that year..............

As you have the marriage cert..............why did you not know the correct year?

And......how old did Rita say she was?

Hi Reggie

I appreciate your help, this is most helpful.

My grandfather has a whole file of info and certificates I have so far found and put together, which is at his house (I am off there now), I need copies of these to keep at home. I did this a couple of years ago, stopped and have restarted so will now need the copies. I am pretty certain Rita's first marriage was 1933 from memory and because of the age given on the marriage certificate I could only work out her birth year approximate. She was a hospital maid and Norwich and Norfolk hospital.

It's pretty amazing really how you have been able to provide me with this info, I have been looking for weeks now. Simply I can't thank you enough

The marriage is posted above...............!

If you think she was born 1917-1919............she would hardly have been of age to marry in 1933

Thanks Reggie, first marriage to Thomas Mitchell was 01/05/1937 - she was 19 years

please excuse my ignorance as I am no expert, if someone died between 2006 and present - is there anyway of finding out?

Only if any announcement was made in the local paper..................and that paper's records have been transcribed for the internet

This may be nothing to do with her, but................it would fit the age given on the marriage cert



Name: Rita Hickie
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Jul - Sep 1917
Event Place: Ennis, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1917
Registration District: Ennis
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 173
GS Film number: 101077
Digital Folder Number: 004194696
Image Number: 00160

Thanks Reggie, your help has been great I appreciate your time and efforts.