Genealogy Chat

I think Garratt Rd is now called Princess St.

Looking at Reggie's Coxlands, and paging back to the beginning of the ED, we see London Rd on p 1-2 then Granby Row on p 2-7, then Garratt Rd on p 7-8.
Starting on p 9, the addy's given as "Garratt Rd or Brook St" - I only checked thru p 12.

On a modern map, Princess St is renamed as Upper Brook St as it crosses under the motorway.

Go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and search for 384300,397600 - zoom in to max step. The arrow-head is at the junction of Granby Row and Princess St, abt 400m W of Manchester Piccadilly station.

Go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html and search for the same coordinates. Select a really large scale map, like the 1891 1:500 town plans - one can see the Old Garratt Dye Works on Brook St, opposite Granby Row, and the Old Garratt Inn on the E side of Brook St, just N of the railroad. Also, just a couple of houses up Granby Row on the N side is the remains of Grrratt Hall. The same details are on the more time appropriate 1851 1:1056 town plans, but it's harder to make out the text (but not too hard if you've seen the 1891 plans first).

For ref - FMP transcriptions via http://www.findmypast.co.uk/referenceSearch.action
Piece Folio Page Full name
HO107/571 1/36 1 HORDERN, Thos a=39
HO107/571 1/37 3 LEANORD, Ann a=18
HO107/571 1/38 5 WOLFENDER, Nanny a=45
HO107/571 1/39 7 COXLAND, William a=29
HO107/571 1/40 9 WALLWORTH, Emeli a=1 (12 months)
HO107/571 1/41 11 ORTON, Thos a=4

Excellent Reggie. I have managed to find the map I want. Whilst I haven't found the exact address I have located Granby Row and managed a print of that area.
Thanks again-j

http://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/searchresources/mapsandatlases/onlinemapcollection/

For anyone interested London Road is the continuation of Piccadilly...... and Old Garrett Road is not the same as Old Barratt Street....but thanks for trying.

Googling and searching on one of the online maps, brings up Barrett Street but not Old Barrett St. Barrett Street is in the Old Trafford/Stretford area of Manchester (and apparently Lowry was born there).

Maybe if somebody has access to FMP they could do an address search on a later census or you could try looking for one of the other streets from the area (from the 1841 census) and see if you can find them, to give you an idea of which area - Manchester is a very large city, residents of one area would not know all the streets in the whole city.

1841 census


Address: Garratt Road, Manchester

222 COXLAND, William M 29 1812 VIEW
222 COXLAND, Mary F 28 1813 VIEW
222 BUTTERWORTH, John M 13 1828 Lancashire VIEW RG number: HO107 Piece: 571 Book / Folio 1/39 Page: 7

Sub District: The London Road
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Municipal Borough: Manchester

The location immediately prior to the above is GRANBY ROW
.......and the one immediately following is BROOK STREET

I realised you meant 1836AD

......................hence my remark about 1841 census

Thanks for british-genealogy link. I should be able to find it now near to the London Road.- j

Just read my topic again. The 1836 refers to the year I am asking about, not the number of the road-j

Reggie, yes I have tried googling and haven't got any further, hence my request on here.
If I had been asked about a road in my own area, the chances are I could have answered someone immediately.
I have an up to date map of Manchester without the index, in other words if the location still exists today and is on my map,I cannot find it because the index has gone missing. I would like to know where Old Garrett Road would have appeared on it. Sorry if I haven't made myself clear.-j

have a look at............

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-20029.html

Have you tried googling?

Or looking at 1841 census?

Are you saying that the address no longer exists? Not sure what you are trying to convey with regard to the up-to-date map...........

Have got an up to date map of Manchester, minus the index, but would like to know this location. The information is not vital so please don't go to too much trouble but would appreciate info if anyone has an old map of the area. Thanks - j