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THOMAS DEE BORN 1896/98 WHO DIED IN THE WW1 ON THE 16TH JULY 1916 AGE 19 YEARS HE WAS IN THE CANADIAN ARMY. HE WAS SENT TO CANADA AS A BRITISH HOME CHILD IN 1905 ON THE KENSINGTON LEAVING LIVERPOOL. I AM LOOKING FOR ANY OF HIS FAMILY AS HE WAS SENT TO CANADA WITH DR BARNARDO'S DON'T KNOW WHERE HE CAME FROM AS IT COULD BE ANYWHERE IN ENGLAND ....THE CHILDREN WHO WERE SENT TO CANADA WERE MANY AND SOME OF THEIR FAMILY ARE NOW RESEARCHING THEIR FAMILY TREE AND NEED OUR HELP. THANKS ANNE

1901 a possible

Name:
Thomas Dee
Age:
5
Estimated birth year:
abt 1896
Relation to Head:
Boarder
Gender:
Male
Birth Place:
N
Civil Parish:
Palgrave
Ecclesiastical parish:
Palgrave St Peter
Town:
Palgrave
County/Island:
Suffolk
Country:
England
Household Members:
Arthur H Vincent 38
Julia S Vincent 44
Charles A Vincent 12
Frank W Vincent 7
image says boarder Dr Barnardo's and not known for place of birth for these 3 children who are living with the Vincent's

Harold Slade 10
William Boswell 9
Thomas Dee 5

this could be Harold
Name:
Harold Slade
Gender:Male
Age:10
Birth Date:abt 1892
Departure Date:25 Sep 1902
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Portland, Maine
Ship Name:Colonian
Shipping line:
Dominion Line
Master:W H Bullock

THANKS JANSMITH FOR YOUR HELP I WILL NOTE THESE DETAILS AND PASS THEM ON TO LORI WHO HAS A FACEBOOK PAGE ON BRITISH HOME CHILDREN AND IS TRYING TO HELP FAMILY'S TRACE WHERE THEIR GRANNIE'S AND GRANDAD'S CAME FROM.. MANY THANKS
:-D

Looks like access to Barnado records is only possible through Barnados themselves

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/our_history/working_with_former_barnardos_children-2013/family_history_service/family_history_service_our_service.htm

thanks Londonbelle... I believe its only family that can access Barnardos and even then you have to prove you are a direct line... I am not but trying to find out where this young lad may have come from

All the records I have checked state place of birth not known and on his WW1Attestation Papers he doesn't even know his age either.....poor lad!

Canadian 1911 census states he was born England in the month of June 1896.

On checking the BMD there was no birth registration for at Thomas Dee in June 1896....in 1896 there is only one and that is for Qtr 4 in Wandsworth.

However, there is a Thomas Dee registered in Qtr 2 in 1895 in Warwick.

There is a baptism for a Thomas Edwin Dee in Warwickshire as follows

Name: Thomas Edwin Dee
Parish: Rugby, St Andrew
Baptism Date: 7 Feb 1896
Mother's name: Harriett Dee Single Woman

Address: 13 Little Elborow Street (looks like)

Barnados are very good looking up info for the children they took in .

They used to search Free BUT think now they may make a charge but they do seem to have kept the files of the children they took in

Yes, Shirley I've heard they keep very good records and photos too of the children.

With this little chappie I think that is really the only way forward.

thanks to you all. will look at the above information and pass this on to Lori. knew that Barnardos sent children to Australia but not to Canada and some of the story's I have read are very good but other children weren't so luck.

The immigration record on Canadian archives gives his age as 7 (born c1898) in 1905 - but does say it was difficult to read:

Given Name(s):Thomas
Surname:DEE
Age:7
Gender:M
Ship:KENSINGTON
Port of Departure:Liverpool
Date of Departure:1905-03-30

Port of Arrival:Portland
Date of Arrival:1905-04-11
Year of Arrival:1905

Party:Barnardo Homes
Comments:The ship docked at Halifax, then Portland, where 269 boys disembarked. The original list was lost and a list prepared in 1934 appears on the reel.
Type of Records:Passenger Lists
Microfilm Reel Number:T-499
Remarks:The child's age was illegible, difficult to decipher or not given
Children travelling together:P05AA
Source:Library and Archives Canada
Reference:RG 76 C1b
Item Number:58384

ADDED: His age isn't visible on the Canadian arrival but is clearly stated as 9 on the UK departure.

Name:DEE, THOMAS
Regimental Number:59249
Date of Birth:1894
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1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Bruce South / 11 Carrick / page 3
17 19 Wahl John M Head M Jul 1865 45
18 19 Wahl Mary May F Wife M Aug 1866 45
19 19 Wahl Sybella F Daughter S Mar 1890 21
20 19 Wahl Hilda F Daughter S Dec 1895 15
21 19 Wahl Gertrude F Daughter S Oct 1899 11
22 19 Dee Thomas M Domestic S Jun 1896 15
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001980706.pdf
[I read the addy as 13-14-C10 Carrick, i.e., lots 13 & 14; concession 10; Carrick Twp, Bruce Co, so abt 1,5 miles NNE of Mildmay, ON.
Incidentally, a standard lot in this twp was 20 chains x 50 chns = 100 acres (NB 80 chns = 1 mile).]


DEE , Thomas
Sex: M
Year of arrival: 1905
Microfilm reel: T-499
Ship: SS Kensington
Port of departure: Liverpool
Departure Date: 30 Mar 1905
Port of arrival: Portland, Maine
Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1905
Party: Dr. Barnardo's
Comments: The ship carried on to Portland, Maine where 269 boys were disembarked on the 11 April 1905. All Dr. Barnardo's Home children. The list was obtained from file #565957 dated 24 Feb. 1934.
Note: The child's age was illegible, difficult to decipher or not given.
Note: Due to the poor legibility of the original records, some information in this database may be incorrect and/or incomplete.
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[poor quality image - age looks like 9 to me]

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/443132
In memory of Private Thomas Dee July 16, 1916
Service Number:59249
Force:Army
Unit:Canadian Infantry (Eastern Ontario Regiment)
Division:21st Bn.
Additional Information:
Cemetery:RIDGE WOOD MILITARY CEMETERY, Belgium
Grave Reference:I. P. I.

Historical Information
Ridge Wood was the name given to a wood standing on high ground between the Kemmel road and Dickebusch Lake.
The cemetery lies in a hollow on the western side of the ridge and the position was chosen for a front line cemetery as early as May 1915. The first graves were from the 2nd Royal Irish Rifles and similar groups were made by the 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st Canadian Battalions and the 9th Durham Light Infantry at the times when they occupied this sector. The German advance in the spring of 1918 pushed the front line back on to the ridge, and it was not till July that the wood was finally cleared by the 6th and 33rd Divisions. There are few burials from these last battles in the cemetery and the graves of some French divisions, which fought alongside Commonwealth forces in April and May, were removed to other burial grounds.
The cemetery contains 619 Commonwealth burials of the First World War.
The cemetery was designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens.


Title: Circumstances of Death Registers, First World War
Microform: 31829_B016736
Page 386-7 of 1035
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Title: Commonwealth War Graves Registers, First World War
Microform: 31830_B016597
Page 268-9 of 1241
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This is Thos's listed n.o.k.:

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Durham / 51 Millbrook / page 2
41 27 Spencer Clarance Henry M Head M Sep 1881 29
42 27 Spencer Ethel Maud F Wife M Sep 1885 25
43 27 Spencer Hilda F Daughter S Jul 1905 5
44 27 Spencer Thelma F Daughter S Dec 1906 4
45 27 Spencer Alice F Daughter S Oct 1908 2
46 27 Spencer Selvy M Son S Sep 1910 8 m.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001983429.pdf

You can search for him in 1921 for free via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
He's in Millbrook municipality

Name:
SPENCER, CLARENCE R
Rank: CHP
Date of Birth:
17/09/1881
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NB - note photo of Thos's grave was sent to Mrs CR Spencer.

EDIT Added:
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