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I have a marriage certificate dated 1860, Fathers Rank or Profession is stated Schoolmaster. I don't suppose there would be any way of knowing which school he was a master of.......a long shot I know particularly as they lived in Liverpool!

Perhaps if you gave us his name we could try to find out .....

There are a number of resources on various sites which might possibly help.

He could possibly be listed on the 1861 census at the school depending on what type of school he worked at.

Kath. x

Thank you for your reply, I have had a look on Google but I am not really sure if it is the correct person I am looking for. His name is Edward Doyle born in Ireland c1815. His Son George married Jane Hodkin at St Nicholas Church Liverpool. I have the certificate of marriage. I have no other information and would love to be able to find out more. Hope you can help and thank you fir your time.

Thank you for your reply, I have had a look on Google but I am not really sure if it is the correct person I am looking for. His name is Edward Doyle born in Ireland c1815. His Son George married Jane Hodkin at St Nicholas Church Liverpool. I have the certificate of marriage. I have no other information and would love to be able to find out more. Hope you can help and thank you fir your time.

Maybe he was still living in Ireland though? Or have you reason to believe he came over to Liverpool with his son?
Jan

Ah I hadn't thought of that, oh dear this isn't going to be easy. I was hoping to find his marriage also! Thanks anyway.

Oldbean - where was George born?

Looks like George was born in Ireland too

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sessions Road, Kirkdale, West Derby, Lancashire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Doyle Head - Male 42 1829 - Ireland
Jane Doyle Wife - Female 32 1839 - Lancashire
Isabella Doyle Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Lancashire
Margret Doyle Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Lancashire
Eliza Doyle Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Lancashire
Jane Doyle Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Lancashire

Print individual transcription View image Individual transcription
First name(s) George
Last name Doyle
Relationship Head
Marital condition -
Gender Male
Age 42
Birth year 1829
Birth town -
Birth county Ireland
House number - .14
House name -
Street Sessions Road
Parish Kirkdale
City or borough Liverpool
Town Liverpool
Village -
County Lancashire
Country England
Municipal ward Kirkdale
Parliamentary borough Liverpool
Ecclesiastical District -
Registration district West Derby
Enumeration district 100
Series RG10
Piece number 3826
Folio number 66
Page 13
Occ Dock porter

Did Edward witness the marriage?

....just trying to establish whether he was still alive at that time.

Gwyn

Sorry for not replying before Shirley and Gwyn, I didn't think anyone else could help! Thank you for information Shirley regarding birth in Ireland, I did manage to find that out as well, with regards to Edward as wittiness to the marriage I am not sure, how would I know? Thanks for giving time to this.

The witnesses are on the bottom of marriage cert - neither is Edward. They are Richard Burns and Charlotte something (Sneath??)! Address Gt. Howard St.
Jan

Thank you everyone for your help and replies I really appreciate your comments too. Jan how did you manage to see info on marriage cert' I do have it and that is correct, I can't read the other name either! Thanks again to all for your time on this.

The image is on Ancestry - they have marriages and banns for Liverpool. (Maybe I should have said I have second sight!!).

Have had a look for other Doyle marriages in Liverpool, with father Edward, but there are only a couple, and their occupations doesn't match your Edward unfortunately.

I believe it is possible to do address searches on FMP (Ancestry only does this 1881 and 1911), maybe someone can check 1861 on the off-chance.

Jan

Is this George 1881? If so, gives more specific birthplace:

1881 England Census
Name: George Doyle
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Jane Doyle
Gender: Male
Where born: Roscommon, Ireland
Civil Parish: Kirkdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 35A Mazor Street
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Dock Porter
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale

George Doyle 53
Jane Doyle 42
Jane Doyle 11
Charlotte Doyle 8
Catherine Doyle 6
Dinah Doyle

Thanks Jan, would be great if you had second sight! I don't think the latter is connected as the age doesn't match up! I must admit I have got myself in a bit of a muddle as I have been trying to look into various family members to try and find a Danish link! Along the way I found the Schoolmaster and hoped to find something interesting there. I guess my search will be a long one but shall continue although I only have Platinum on here!

The age does match though doesn't it?? :-)

Doesn't help really, but hey!

(Address for burial same as 1881 census)

Name: George Doyle
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 55
Burial Date: 4 Jun 1884
Parish: Walton Park
Reference Number: 283 WAL/4/2/8


Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%)
Doyle Jane West Derby 8b 664
KENNEDY Sarah West Derby 8b 664
Taylor Joseph W. Derby 8b 664
Whitfield Henry W.Derby 8b 664

1901 England Census

Name: Dinah G Doyle
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Stepdaughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Jane Taylor
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Blackburn St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn, Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3906
Folio: 125
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 6

Joseph Taylor 68
Jane Taylor 61 Born Sheffield
Catherine Doyle 26
Dinah G Doyle 20

You probably have this, but can't resist putting it if only for the splendid mis-transcription!!


1891 England Census

Name: Donel Lozle
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's name: Jane Taylor
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale

Joseph Taylor 59
Jane Taylor 57
Catherine Lozle 16
Donel Lozle 10
John Mc Millan 26
Sarah Mc Millan 28
Jane Shaw 21

:-D :-D

Wow Jan just logged on to see how busy you have been! I have a hectic day tomorrow but after that I have a bit of free time to get in there and study your information. Thank you it looks fascinating! X