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Don't know why the mothers name is different



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906


Name:Richard James Perkins

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:27 Aug 1893

Father's Name:
Richard James Perkins <<Upholsterer

Mother's name:
Thrail Perkins

Parish or Poor Law Union:Bethnal Green St Philip

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Register Type:Parish Registers

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I see where the mothers name comes from on the baptism!


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name:Richard James Thrail Perkins

Estimated birth year:abt 1868

Age:23

Spouse Name:Harriet Withrington

Spouse Age:22

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:4 Aug 1891

Parish:Bethnal Green St Philip

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Father Name:
James Perkins

Spouse Father:
James Withrington

Register Type:Parish Register

Fantastic - thank you so much for the information I can now continue my search....

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: Richard James John Perkins

Year: 1938

County or Borough: Enfield

Ward or Division/Constituency: Enfield West

Street address: 351 Carterhatch Lane

Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0646

at the same address - Hilda Georgina Perkins (wife), Richard James Perkins (?father) and Harriet Perkins (?mother)

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Richard James John Thrall Perkins

Probate Date: 21 Jan 1955

Death Date: 21 Nov 1954

Death Place: Middlesex, England

Registry: London, England

of 351 Carterhatch Lane, Enfield - Administration to Hilda Georgina Perkins, widow

Effects - £249 6s 8d.

This is his marriage in 1917 and death in 1954

Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
Perkins Richard J J T Groves Reading 2c
He married Hilda G Groves

There are several children born in different places in the Country so it is difficult to know which are theirs and which may belong to other couples with the same name. You can find them by going to Free BMD (http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl) and using Perkins/Groves from a date of 1917 to around 1935.

Deaths Dec 1954 (>99%)
Perkins Richard J J T 61 Edmonton 5e 392

Hilda died 4 years later in 1958 in Edmonton District.

He isn't listed as a casualty of WW1 on the War Graves site so he may have survived or he may have been in a reserved occupation and not fought at all.

His birth registration

Perkins Richard James J T Bethnal Green 1c 246a

1911 Census

Name: Richard Perkins
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bow, London, England
Civil Parish: Enfield
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 40 Ridler Road, Enfield
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Electrical Engineering
Registration district: Edmonton
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Perkins 43
Harriet Perkins 42
Richard Perkins 17

Richard m Harriet Elizabeth and had a son in 1894 in Bow also named Richard. I have found the family in the 1901 Census when young Richard was 7. There is a possibility he served in WW1 and was killed and I wonder if he had married and had any children before he went off to war. Can anyone help? Richard James Senior was my Great Uncle.