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Hello, William Henry Thelwell was born about 1886/87 son of Thomas Thelwell and Mary Thelwell nee Brokensha in Stockport, Cheshire. He married the wife of my grand uncle in 1961 at the age of 74, she was 71 and her name was Jessie Amelia Bryant nee Morton. On their marriage certificate William is given as being a widower and living at the time of their marriage at 1A Beaconsfield Road, Chatham, Kent.

I've been informed that William was married before and that he had two daughters who were later in life in the Navy. William had also been in the Navy.

William died in died in 1963 in the All Saints Hospital, Chatham, Kent. At the time of his death William had been living at 3 Wickham Street, Rochester, Kent. The only person he left money to was Jessie Amelia, his then wife.

Am wondering if anyone could please try and see if they can find his first marriage and the two daughters he was supposed to have had.

As ever, any help will be much appreciated.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Just for ref 1911

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NAME: William H Thelwell
AGE IN 1911: 24
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1887
RELATION TO HEAD: Able Bodied Seaman (Seaman)
BIRTH PLACE: Brinnington, Stockport
CIVIL PARISH: Mediterranean
COUNTY/ISLAND: Royal Navy
COUNTRY: England
MARITAL STATUS: Single
REGISTRATION DISTRICT NUMBER: 640
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: Vessels
PIECE: 34973

There are a few marriages for a William H Thelwell but they seem to match up to births of that name in those locations and as far as I can see none of those only had two daughters?. As he was in the navy possibly he married overseas?

This is just a guess, as it is a couple of years before William's marriage?

NAME: Beatrice Thelwell
BIRTH DATE: abt 1890
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Mar 1959
AGE AT DEATH: 69
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Chatham
INFERRED COUNTY: Kent
VOLUME: 5b
PAGE: 455

sending a PM with children of a possible marriage in 1912 . initial M could be H ? as it is indistinct. 1 child born stockport the others Medway,

NAME: William M Thelwell
SPOUSE SURNAME: Bunter
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1912
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jul-Aug-Sep
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Stockport
PARISHES FOR THIS REGISTRATION DISTRICT: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
INFERRED COUNTY: Cheshire
VOLUME: 8a
PAGE: 106
RECORDS ON PAGE:
NAME

Beatrice Bunter

William M Thelwell

Hi again, I'd typed a reply but it doesn't seem to have sent. Thank you so much for the information provided and the private message. Am going to look into that marriage very soon once we've had tea. I've been on the phone for ages hence my taking time to reply. I know in 1911 William was single. I find him later on the passenger list coming into Liverpool in 1922 but it doesn't say whether he's single or not, will have to check that again. I see that marriage to Beatrice Bunter they had four daughters, maybe this is the one. It seems perhaps too much of coincidence that it can't be as you say they were in Stockport and then you find them in Kent. I do love these mysteries but even more so when they get solved.

Kind regards

Kathryn

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1912
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
THELWELL William Henry BUNTER Beatrice Portwood, St Paul Stockport ST11/8/199

Also, to tidy up y.o.b.
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THELWELL William Henry Stockport Second Stockport BROKENSHA ST2/45/87

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1912 to 1914 [rego'ed 1913q2]
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THELWELL Beatrice Stockport Second Stockport BUNTER ST2/17/40

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1913[q4]
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
THELWELL Beatrice 0 Stockport Second Stockport ST2/12/25

There are 3 Medway births for Thelwell-Bunter 1924-1928

Just for helpers ref, I have been in touch ( yesterday) with Kathryn and PMd several marriages which may be the Thelwell/Bunter children and as one appears to be named as witness on the 2nd marriage cert seems likely to be correct, have Pmd 'possible' child to one marriage and link to someone now living if Kathryn decides to follow up when she has worked through the info.

Hi all. Thank you so much for all the information provided and the time people have spent. I believe, at least for now, that I have enough information to further my quest. If I get stuck I'll be back.

Happy New Year to one and all,

Kind regards

Kathryn