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24 Jan 2015 10:29 |
It looks to me like the James baptised at Shellow Bowells in 1801, was the one who married Caroline Oddy at Willingale Doe in 1825.
I think the second witness for the marriage is Pavitt as that is a common surname around there at that time. It does look like Revitt though.
For those unfamiliar with the area this report, by the Parloc program, shows nearby parishes.
Parish Locator Report ===================== The following list of Parishes are within a 4 Mile Radius of Roxwell. Parish Name Type,County,Country,OsRef Distance & Direction =========== ========================= ==================== Broomfield P ESS ENG TL7010 3.9 East by North East Chelmsford P ESS ENG TL7006 3.9 East by South East Chignall Smealy P ESS ENG TL6611 2.2 North by North East Chignall St James P ESS ENG TL6709 2.0 East by North East Good Easter P ESS ENG TL6212 2.8 North by North West High Easter P ESS ENG TL6214 3.9 North by North West Mashbury P ESS ENG TL6511 2.0 North by North East Pleshey P ESS ENG TL6614 3.9 North by North East Roding Beauchamp P ESS ENG TL5809 3.8 West Roding Berners (Berners Roding) P ESS ENG TL6009 2.6 West by North West Roding Margaret P ESS ENG TL6011 3.1 North West Roxwell P ESS ENG TL6408 0.0 Shellow Bowells P ESS ENG TL6007 2.6 West by South West Widford P ESS ENG TL6905 3.6 East by South East Willingale Doe P ESS ENG TL5907 3.2 West by South West Willingale Spain P ESS ENG TL6005 3.1 South West Writtle P ESS ENG TL6706 2.2 East by South East
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23 Jan 2015 23:21 |
Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
Goward Cecilia Chelmsford 4a 212
First name(s) CECILIA Last name GOWARD Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1890 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ CECILIA GOWARD married WILLIAM KNIGHT Spouse's last name - District CHELMSFORD District number - County Essex Country England Volume 4A Page 543
Births Mar 1876 (>99%) Goward P_ainsah Chelmsford 4a 251 Scan available - click to view GOWARD Peninnah Chelmsford 4a 251 Scan available - click to view
Married James Little in 1894
Births Sep 1883 (>99%) GOWARD Thirza Chelmsford 4a 333
Following through on the children has proved effective..................always wise to vary your search criteria
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Brickclays, Roxwell, Chelmsford, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Gaward Head Married Male 52 1839 Agricultural Labourer Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Mary A Gaward Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Pricilla Gaward Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Scholar Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Thirza Gaward Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Brickalays, 3, Roxwell, Chelmsford, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Ganard Head Married Male 62 1839 Gardiner (Jobbing) Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Mary Ann Ganard Wife Married Female 55 1846 - Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Thereza Ganard Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Martin Perkins Lodger Single Male 21 1880 Labourer Essex, England
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23 Jan 2015 23:15 |
In the Parish record for Roxwell the only baptisms around that time are:
25 May 1834 James son of James & Caroline Goward labourer of Roxwell. 20 March 1836 Samuel son of Thomas & Roseanne Goward labourer of Roxwell 24 June 1838 Thomas son of Thomas & Roseanne Goward labourer of Roxwell 15 July 1838 Samuel Ezekiel son of James & Caroline Goward labourer of Roxwell.
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23 Jan 2015 22:59 |
First name(s) SAMUEL EZEKIEL Last name GOWARD Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1872 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ SAMUEL EZEKIEL GOWARD married MARY ANN HORSNELL Spouse's last name - District CHELMSFORD District number - County Essex Country England Volume 4A Page 286
A copy of the cert will show you his father's details
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23 Jan 2015 22:52 |
GOWARD SAMUEL E 1839 1916 1916 Deaths & burials Chelmsford, Essex, England
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23 Jan 2015 22:51 |
You wrote.......
If you key in Ezekiel Goward b 1839...........................
Where are you performing this action?
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23 Jan 2015 22:50 |
Ron
You haven't yet commented on the fact that you have chosen the wrong parents, and that James was not born c1806, but was born c1801
Also, when looking for info about Ezekiel, you appear to have totally overlooked the birth registration posted by Chris, and the question about whether or not you have a copy of the cert
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23 Jan 2015 20:31 |
If you key in Ezekiel Goward b 1839 (give or take 2yrs) the names that come up are Ezekiel Goward in 1841, 1851, and 1861,but it also shows Samuel E in 1881 and Samuel Ezekiel in 1911. My question is, why did they appear to change after 1861? Could it be that his parents baptized him with both names but preferred Ezekiel BUT when he married, he quoted both his names. On the other hand, are these two different people? But where are the 1891 and 1901 census reports?
And before I forget, thanks everyone for your help so far.
Ron
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Jan 2015 19:08 |
(below PM received, have asked Ron to reply back on 'Thread', when he is ready!)
Chris :)
Thanks for the information you kindly supplied, however, its gonna take a while for me to plow through everything you and some others have supplied. Didn't really think I'd get such a quick and informative response. Once again, many thanks. Ron
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20 Jan 2015 14:37 |
In my use of the Essex RO I have found that on average birth dates are given in parish baptism registers in just under 10% of cases. Usually that is when the person is baptised a long time after the birth but some incumbents recorded it as a matter of routine.
If possible it is worth checking the image of the baptism record as it may not be recorded in the on-line transcriptions available.
Something to bear in mind is that the estimated birth year given in a transcriptions of a census entry (excluding the 1841 census) is likely to be one year out.
That is because the estimate is given by subttracting the age from the census year, but that is only correct for those whose birthday falls before the census date. As the census is taken at the end of March/beginning of April the estimate will be one year later than the actual birth year for about three people out of four.
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20 Jan 2015 09:59 |
I'm sure you understand that before the GRO came into being, there were no birth records - only baptisms.
If one is very lucky, the DOB is recorded, but it's the exception when that happens, so you have to accept that actual DOB's are hardly ever available, and make do with the baptism info, and, in the case of James and Caroline, age at death.
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20 Jan 2015 09:53 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cooks Mill Green Road, Roxwell, Chelmsford, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Goward Head Married Male 60 1801 Agricultural Labourer Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Caroline Goward Wife Married Female 52 1809 - Margaretting, Essex, England Transcription James Goward Son Unmarried Male 25 1836 Agricultural Labourer Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Ezekiel Goward Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Shoe Maker Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Louisa Clayden Visitor Daughter Married Female 22 1839 - Roxwell, Essex, England Transcription Mary Ann Clayden Granddaughter - Female 2 1859 - Essex, England Transcription Mary Ann Camp Granddaughter - Female 13 1848 - Billericay, Essex, England Transcription
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19 Jan 2015 18:01 |
(the 'connection?)
http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1244355?d=asc&page=1
(from above, the below)
July 26th 1902 Arthurs second marriage took place at Cooksmill Green Chapel, Roxwell and was to Thirza Goward a 19r old spinster whose father, Samuel Ezekiel Goward was listed as a Gardener. Arthur was listed as a widower and an Agricultural Labourer whilst his father was listed as (Deceased) Cattle Farmer. Ellan Parrish and Mary Ann Goward (nee Horsenell) were the witnesses. Regards, Ron
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1891 (Find My Past) Samuel Gaward Head Married Male 52 1839 Agricultural Labourer Roxwell, Essex, England Mary A Gaward Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Roxwell, Essex, England Pricilla Gaward Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Scholar Roxwell, Essex, England Thirza Gaward Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Roxwell, Essex, England Parish Roxwell County Essex Registration district Chelmsford Archive reference RG12 Piece number 1387 Folio 63 Page 5
Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------- GOWARD Samuel Ezekiel Chelmsford 4a 286 Horsnell Mary Ann Chelmsford 4a 286
Births Sep 1883 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ GOWARD Thirza Chelmsford 4a 333
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- Goward Thirza Chelmsford 4a 1038 Martin Arthur Cecil Chelmsford 4a 1038
Chris :)
Births Jun 1838 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------- Garwood Samuel Ezekiel Chelmsford 12 55
(above posted earlier, do you have Cert.?)
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Jacqueline
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19 Jan 2015 12:42 |
I would advise that you hang fire with the printing until you have 100% accuracy
At the moment, you have allocated the wrong parents to the man who was married to Caroline
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Jacqueline
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19 Jan 2015 12:41 |
GOWARD JAMES 1801 1868 1868 Deaths & burials Chelmsford, Essex, England
GOWARD CAROLINE 1807 1869 1869 Deaths & burials Chelmsford, Essex, England
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Jacqueline
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19 Jan 2015 12:38 |
????only a suggestion, as I don't know the geography of Essex in any detail
First name(s) James Last name Goward Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1801 Baptism date 01 Feb 1801 Residence Essex, England Place Shellow Bowells County Essex Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Goward Mother's first name(s) Martha Mother's last name -
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Jacqueline
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19 Jan 2015 12:36 |
You have assumed 1806 as his birth based on 1841 when in fact the later censuses, where the ages were NOT rounded down, show his birth to be at least 5 years earlier
Perhaps you need to do a re-think?
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Jacqueline
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19 Jan 2015 12:33 |
If JAMES was known - without any doubt - to be the son of SAMUEL and JEMIMA, he was still living with them in1841
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cooks Mill Green, Roxwell, Chelmsford, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Sml Goward Male 60 1781 Essex, England Transcription Jemima Goward Female 60 1781 Essex, England Transcription James Goward Male 30 1811 Essex, England Transcription************** Abraham Goward Male 30 1811 Essex, England Transcription Elizabth Goward Female 15 1826 Essex, England Transcription John Nottage Male 20 1821 Essex, England
How are you connected?
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19 Jan 2015 11:26 |
1804 Samuel GOWARD & Jemima WASH, Chelmsford 1827 Thomas GOWARD & Rosanna ELLIS, Roxwell
Some Marriage Entries from Boyd’s Index for Essex
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boydsindex/Boydsindexh.htm
Some Marriage Entries from Boyd’s Index for Essex. ... 1806 James HAGGER & Martha BECKWAY, ... Roxwell 1810 James HORSNELL & Elizabeth PHILLIPS, ...
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19 Jan 2015 11:17 |
Roxwell 1841 Essex Census
essex1841.com/Roxwell-1841-14.php
Roxwell 1841 Essex Census ? ... James: Goward: 6: 671: Ezekiel: Goward: 3: 672: William: ... This is a Victorian view on the streets of london and the south of England.
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