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Trying to find anything out about my grandad Hartley had two children to Annie fail in the late 1919 to early 1920s in bedlington or Blyth in northumberland they were not married

Hi Elizabeth

Do you know when/where Annie and Hartley were born and anything else about the couple?

Welcome to the Boards Elizabeth

Was FAIL Annie's maiden name or had she taken Hartley's?

Searching http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl for surname Fail mother's maiden name Fail 1915-1930 there are more than 2 births in the correct area.

Which child is your parent?

Was Hartley his christian name or surname ?

Ok two possibles

Births Sep 1918
Hartley Henry E Fail Tynemouth 10b 551

Births Dec 1919
Hartley Peter F Fail Morpeth 10b 894

The certs will give more details like dads christian name and their address at the time

Did they have his birth year wrong ???

Name: Henry Ellis Hartley
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1919
Date of Registration: May 1996
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Register Number: 27
District and Subdistrict: 6772
Entry Number: 256


Possibly his wife

Name: Edna Hartley
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1922
Date of Registration: Dec 1999
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Register Number: 2A
District and Subdistrict: 6771A
Entry Number: 107

Name: Peter F Hartley
Birth Date: abt 1920
Date of Registration: Sep 1964
Age at Death: 44
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 1b
Page: 208

Annie was born at scotland gate Bedlington in 1896 according to the 1911 census Andy henry Hartley is a mystery

1901

Name:Annie Fail

Age:4

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1897

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Father:Robert Fail

Birth Place:
Bedlington, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish:Bedlington

Ecclesiastical parish:Choppington St Paul

County/Island:Northumberland

Registration district:Morpeth

Sub-registration district:Bedlington

ED, institution, or vessel:14

Piece:4834
Folio:156
Page Number:10

Household schedule number:62



Age
Robert Fail 37
Annie Fail 4


Please reply on here rather than by PM, you'll get more help

All you say is correct but he appears to be the only henry Hartley in the area he left when the boys were young and only came back once many years later

???

1901 census

1, Eleanor Street, Cullercoats, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England



William E Hartley Head Married Male 35 1866 Plasterer Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Ann J Hartley Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Preston, Lancashire, England

Henry Hartley Son Single Male 7 1894 - Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Reginald Hartley Son - Male 5 1896 - Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Leonard C Hartley Son - Male 2 1899 - Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Wonder if William E. was William Ellis so Henry named his son Henry Ellis

???

Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
First name(s) HENRY
Last name HARTLEY
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1926
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ HENRY HARTLEY married
EDITH F DODGSON
Spouse's last name DODGSON
District TYNEMOUTH
District number -
County Northumberland
Country England
Volume 10B
Page 402
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

???

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) HENRY
Last name HARTLEY
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 12
Birth year 1893
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1972
District NORTHUMBERLAND SOUTH
County Northumberland
Volume 1B
Page 1037
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

No his dad was william Edward
1911 Census
57 Cambridge Avenue, Whitley, Northumberland, England

William Edward Hartley Head Married Male 45 1866 Lancaster Lancashire Plasterer

Annie J Hartley Wife Married Female 40 1871 Preston Lancashire

Henry Hartley Son Single Male 17 1894 Lancaster Lancashire Grocers Assistant

Reginald Hartley Son Single Male 15 1896 Lancaster Lancashire Messenger Boy

Leonard Cecil Hartley Son - Male 12 1899 Lancaster Lancashire -

Lily Simpson Hartley Daughter - Female 9 1902 Cullercoats Northumberland -

Muriel Nellie Hartley Daughter - Female 6 1905 Cullercoats Northumberland

Really without a marriage cert or some sort of info for Henry. Don't know how you will identify the right man

Andy henry Hartley is a mystery


:-S

Elizabeth, you need to tell us ALL you know about the couple

Had a PM saying the father was Henry Hartley

Sorry what's pm mean and I am hoping that the next census will help me and thank you for your help so far first time user of community

PM. Is the abbreviation for personal /private message which is what is generated if you click on a persons name they get your response which doesn't show as a reply of the thread

Afraid you have a long wait for the next census Its unlikey to be released as the cost of transcribing is prohitive .

In any case eve n if it was released. It won't be till 2021

A bit late back to the party, but according to a PM


It (Fail) was the name she was born with one child died Robert died 1917 not Henrys child then she had two more henry Ellis and peter Forsythe both hartley