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Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	26 Apr 2015 15:40
	You may have to accept that their births simply weren't registered. Until 1875, there weren't any penalties........ Have you tried looking for baptisms on the FREE familysearch site?
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Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	26 Apr 2015 15:28
	i will get back to you when i get everything thank you its always nice to have some one with fresh eyes to look at a line of research thanks thanks thanks zena <3
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	26 Apr 2015 15:21
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	I'd be interested to know what it says- but wouldn't be surprised if she has a different father listed- it's possible the Davis children were illegitimate. Getting the mother's marriage certificate would tell you if she was single or a widow when she married: Marriage Name: Mary Davis Gender: Female Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1863 Marriage Place: Saint Andrew,Droitwich,Worcester,England Spouse: William Knott FHL Film Number: 0354318, 0354319 Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%) DAVIS Mary Droitwich 6c 433 <<<<<<<<< DUGGAN Sarah Droitwich 6c 433 KNOTT William Droitwich 6c 433 <<<<<<<<< NICKLIN George Droitwich 6c 433 I'll let you know if I spot anything else x
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	26 Apr 2015 14:58
	i'll send for the brookes mariage certificate but i'm sure its them regards zena x
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	26 Apr 2015 14:57
	oh my god gritty thats sarah's daughter samuel sarahs's husband was hanged for murder in 1888 maria and the youngest son samuel were in the workhouse in 1881 after sarah drown then she went to those people but i couldnt find out why your brilliant yes that proves it is martha sarahs sister i could kiss youxxxx
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	26 Apr 2015 14:35
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	The 1891 for Mary (who is most likely Martha from the 1861 census) seems to confirm the connection with your Sarah Davis/ Crowther, as they have a Maria Crowther lodging with them. 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chawson Crossing, Worcester Road, St Andrew, Droitwich, Worcestershire, England John Brooks Head Married Male 40 1851 Railway Plate Layer Stourton, Warwickshire, Mary Brooks Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Coleshill, Warwickshire, England Fancy Lucey Brooks Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Domestic Servant Staffordshire, John Brooks Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire, England William Frank Brooks Son - Male 1 1890 - Droitwich, Worcestershire, England Maria Crowther Lodger - Female 10 1881 Scholar Droitwich, Worcestershire, England
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	26 Apr 2015 13:19
	sorry i dont know about mary on her marriage certificate her father is joseph. mary and joseph as parents ha ha i am just starting searching this 1861 family zena
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	26 Apr 2015 13:18
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	I'm not certain, but I suspect Martha was actually Mary- but was called Martha to distinguish from mother. So we're trying find Sarah's birth- which is consistently Castle Bromwich- who does she list as her father on the marriage certificate?
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	26 Apr 2015 13:14
	hi everyone thanks for your work that is sarah on the 71 census its her birth i am trying to find that is the only census i know is definatly her marriage cert gives her one birth date and death cert gives her another (she drown 1880) sylvania free b m d is dificult because there are so many birmingham births, or was she registered in an outlying birmingham suburb hence my original question. i went to wdytya saturday and one of the experts suggested i follow up this sarah (1861 census)saying martha would be an easier name to follow thanks again zena <3
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	26 Apr 2015 09:51
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Sister Sarah- marriage: Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%) Crowther Samuel Droitwich 6c 729 <<<<<<<< DAVIS Sarah Droitwich 6c 729 <<<<<<<<<<< Jones Eliza Droitwich 6c 729 Smith William Droitwich 6c 729 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hill End, Dodderhill, Droitwich, Worcestershire, England Samuel Crowther Head - Male 53 1818 - Worcestershire, England Sarah Crowther Wife - Female 28 1843 - Warwickshire, Castle Bromwich, England William H Crowther Son - Male 1 1870 - Worcestershire, Droitwich England
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	26 Apr 2015 09:30
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Perhaps name was Mary, or is this another sister? First name(s) JOHN Last name BROOKES Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1873 MarriageFinder™ JOHN BROOKES married one of these people MARY DAVIS, FREDRICE LAWLEY PUMFREY Spouse's last name - District DROITWICH District number - County Worcestershire Country England ---------------------------------------------------------------- FMP transciption: 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription St Andrew Street, Droitwich St Andrew, Droitwich, Worcestershire, England John Brookes Head Married Male 30 1851 Labourer Warwickshire, England Mary Brookes Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Catshill, Worcestershire, England Fanny L Brookes Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Wordsley, Worcestershire, England John Brookes Son Single Male 2 1879 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England Frederick Davis Nephew Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Droitwich, Worcestershire, ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 3, High Street, Kingswinford & Wall Heath, Kingswinford (Stafford), Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England John Brooks Head Married Male 50 1851 Carter On Farm Stourton, Warwickshire, Mary Brooks Wife Married Female 50 1851 - Coalhill, Warwickshire, England Fanny L Brooks Daughter Single Female 25 1876 - Wordsley, Staffordshire, England Ernest Brooks Son - Male 7 1894 At School Droitwich, Worcestershire, England Martha Brooks Grand Daughter - Female 4 1897 At School Droitwich, Worcestershire, Authur Brooks Grand Son - Male 2 1899 - Droitwich, Worcestershire,
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	26 Apr 2015 06:47
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Sylvia- Meriden was the registration district for Coleshill Struggling to find them on other census- Did Mary remarry? Marriage Name: Mary Davis Gender: Female Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1863 Marriage Place: Saint Andrew,Droitwich,Worcester,England Spouse: William Knott FHL Film Number: 0354318, 0354319 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Holloway, St Peter, Droitwich, Worcestershire, England William Nott Head - Male 62 1809 - Stoke, Worcestershire, Mary Nott Wife - Female 47 1824 - Droitwich, Worcestershire, Edward F Nott ? - Male 3 1868 - Droitwich, Worcestershire, Martha Davis Step-Daughter - Female 22 1849 - Warwickshire, England Frederick Davis Step-Son - Male 1 1870 - Droitwich, Worcestershire,
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,039 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	26 Apr 2015 01:02
	Is Mary Davis the mother of the 3 younger Davis's????
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,039 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	26 Apr 2015 00:45
	what is meriden???? freebmd is where you should be searching for birth registrations
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	25 Apr 2015 21:50
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Apologies- the 1861 transcription from fmp states Worcestershire- but image states Coleshill, Warwickshire. Do you have members of this family on any other census Zena?
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 1,562 Send Message	BeverleyW	Report	25 Apr 2015 20:57
	The 1861 census on Ancestry says 'Coleshill, Warwickshire' - not Worcestershire - which I think is correct. I don't remember Coleshill being near the Worcester border,
	Researching: Weedon - Australia, Hertfordshire; Paterson - Scotland; Elmer - Huntingdon; Ball, Lloyd, Warren - Birmingham; Branson - Bucks;
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	25 Apr 2015 20:50
	have tried meriden their not there zena
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	25 Apr 2015 20:27
	For that time they should be on FreeBMD if the births were registered
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: September 2009 Posts: 484 Send Message	zenawarrior	Report	25 Apr 2015 20:08
	ok have a good time x zena :-)
	Researching: lewis smith mowbray townsend crowther holmes bourne hands
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	25 Apr 2015 20:05
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Zena- I have to go out now, but, if no-one has found the births before I get back, I'll take a look later :-)

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