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I had much success tracing my grandfather's mother's side back from Catherine May Baster until I came to the 1881 census. Despite their being a record in the 1891 census for my George Baster--a railway clerk born in 1855 in Buckinghamshire/Slough living in Eastleigh, Hampshire with his wife, Eliza, and many children, at least three of whom would have been alive during the previous census--he and his entire family are nowhere to be found in the 1881 census. There are George Basters in the 1871 and 1861 censuses, but I am wary of the lack of evidence to link them with my own.

I would be really grateful if anyone could help at all.
Thanks
Seb

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
286 Southampton Road Eastleigh, Eastleigh, Hampshire, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
George Baster Head Married Male Railway Engineers Clerk 56 1855 Bucks Slough Transcription
Eliza Baster Wife Married Female - 55 1856 London District Not Known Transcription
Norman Baster Son Single Male Railway Office Porter 19 1892 Hants Eastleigh Transcription
Lawrence Baster Son Single Male Railway Office Messenger 16 1895 Hants Eastleigh Transcription
Dorothy May Baster Daughter - Female Apprentice 14 1897 Hants Eastleigh Transcription
Herbert Baster Son - Male School 11 1900 Hants Eastleigh

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Name: Geo. Baker
[George Baster]
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Eliza Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Slough, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Kingston on Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: New Portland Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Clerk
Registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 836
Folio: 21
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo. Baker 21
Eliza Baker 21
Elener Mary Baker 7
Geo.Will. Baker 5
Danel Arthur Baker 4
Esther Baker 2
Eliza Baker

The above must be right if this is the family 1891 - apart from anything else, Esther born Surbiton clinches it I think.

Name: James A Baster
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Baster
Mother's name: Eliza Baster
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: South Stoneham
Ecclesiastical parish: Eastleigh
Town: Eastleigh
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 924
Folio: 128
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
George Baster 36
Eliza Baster 35
George W Baster 15
James A Baster 14
Ester Baster 12
Eliza Baster 10
Walter Baster 7
Nellie Baster 5
Winifred Baster 3
Albert Baster 1

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name BASTER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1855
Age 80
Death quarter 2
Death year 1935
District WINCHESTER
County Hampshire
Volume 2C
Page 158
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from United Kingdom
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Thank you both very much. Can I ask where abouts I can see the records you have found?

Hi Seb.
The 2 census I put above are from Ancestry.co.uk
Jan

Seb, you accidentally posted your request 4 times. Could you delete the other 3?

Thank you Jan, and I'm not sure how to. How do delete it?

Here are links to each of the other three threads:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1355044

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1355043

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1355042


Open each of them in turn, and click Delete.

Seb
Click on the title of the unwanted threads and use the Delete button you can see within the post,,

Thanks, I've just deleted them.

What year is the 'Baker' census from by the way Jan?

Don't worry, I've just found it :)

Hi Seb.

You mention about going back with George - in case you don't have it, here is a birth for a child:

Name: Florence Mary Baster
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1873
Baptism Date: 13 Jan 1874
Archive Provided Parish: Surbiton, St Mark
Parish as it Appears: Surbiton, St Mark
Father: George Baster (clerk)
Mother: Eliza Baster
Reference Number: 2217/1/2

A tree on Ancestry has him marrying Eliza Groom in 1873. Only issue for me is that record shows him as a billiard player!

To be 100% sure of Eliza's name, you might need a child's birth cert:

Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
BASTER Florence Mary Kingston 2a 288

Jan

Thanks for that Jan. I think I've found my George Baster living with his dad, Thomas, mum, Esther, and brother, Levi, in 1861 in Windsor. His birthday is only 1 year out (1856), and he is from Slough (it says Hough, but I believe that's a mistake), Buckinghamshire.

I can't find Thomas in the 1851 census, but I can find Esther Baster. Here's the thing, though, she is from the right place (Egham, Surrey), one year off of the right birthdate (1826) and living in Windsor, but she is not married to a Thomas Baster; she is married to a Levi Baster. This Levi is from Wiltshire as is Thomas, and Levi is the name of Thomas and Esther's son in the 1861 census, but he is born 1826 (Thomas is 1822) and is a post boy not an 'ostler' like Thomas. Additionally, the children in the 1861 census were born in Buckinghamshire after the 1851 census, meaning the family would have gone from Windsor to Buckinghamshire to Windsor again.

What do you think?

i found my information on find my past

http://search.findmypast.com.au/

free this weekend till monday 21st sept

Seb, I saw those records. The Slough connection is tempting, but for myself there are too many questions.
Hopefully someone else will crack this, otherwise you might need to purchase a birth cert for one of the children, which with luck will lead you to a marriage for George and Eliza.
Quite tricky aren't they!
I wonder if it might be worth contacting the Ancestry tree owners to see how they came to the marriage to Eliza Groom.
Jan

http://www.kingston.gov.uk/directory_record/98736/baster_levi

Burial Records (includes image)

Levi Baster (Levi James West)
Cemetery Kingston
Last name Baster
First name Levi
First initial J
Second initial W
Age 31 Years
Date of death 12/08/1884


Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Baster Levi James W 31 Staines 3a 9


(if relating anywhere, also below)


Deaths Sep 1873 (>99%)
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BASTER Levi James 48 Kingston 2a 134

(Abode for image on above, Market Place)


(from google to match 1871)

The Griffin Hotel, Market Place, Kingston upon Thames:

Chris :)

(others)

http://www.kingston.gov.uk/directory/20/burial_records/category/178/page/7



Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
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BASTER James Arthur Kingston 2a 296

(above for 1881, not Danel)


UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 (Ancestry)

G Baster 20 Sep 1873 London and South Western

(Date of Entry into the Service, as above. Clerk in Engineers Dept. Waterloo)

(Removed to Bishopstoke 1885 (which would tie in with Eastleigh)