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Many thanks everyone for this info, I didn't notice that Clarke was miss-transcribed as Charles! And I could not find a death for Andrew. This has helped me a lot, so thanks again..
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This is the family in 1851, at Hockenhall Alley as Rosezina says, mistranscribed on Ancestry.


Catherin Charles
in the 1851 England Census

Name: Catherin Charles
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Philip Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
:Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1aa
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 2179
Folio: 861
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Charles 39
Catherin Charles 30
Patrick Charles 5
Anna Charles 3
Ellen Charles 34 (actually says 3 days)
David Rowland 42 - lodger
Debra Connor 39 - servant


Patrick born Ireland, Anna born Liverpool, so they must have moved to Liverpool 1845-47.


I think Andrew P is Patrick.

On the image I think the middle initial looks more like a P than a T.

Andrew T Clarke
in the 1861 England Census

Name: Andrew T Clarke
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1845
Relation: Son
Father's name: Philip Clarks
Mother's name: Catherine Clarke
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Piece: 2666
Folio: 25
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Clarks 52 - Ireland
Catherine Clarke 41 - Ireland
Andrew T Clarke 16 - Ireland (all other children born Liverpool)
Ann Clarke 13
Ellen Clarke 10
John Clarke 7
Mary Clarke 5
Philip Clarke 3
James Clarke 4
Benj Bown 65 - lodger


Address: 28 Adlington Street



And his death:

Deaths Jun 1866 (>99%)
Clarke Andrew P 20 Liverpool 8b 92

Thanks for the searches everyone. Patrick is the earliest and only birth I can find back in Ireland. However on a Liverpool census there is an Andrew born in 1845, this is either Patrick's other name or a different child, but I have not found any other Andrew Clarke's on subsequent census forms for this family. I have their youngest son Matthew's birth certificate born 1867 that confirms Catherine Soraghan as his mother. The only baptism record I have for Catherine, is a Cathrine Soran born 1821 in Derrygola in Co Monaghan.

Patrick Clarke's baptism

Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. ANDREW
Baptism of PATK CLARKE of N/R on N/R N/R 1845
Name PATK CLARKE
Date of Birth N/R N/R N/R
Address N/R
Father PHILIP CLARKE
Mother CATHE
Further details in the record
Sponsor 1 JOSEPH FITZSIMONS
Sponsor 2 ALICIA LYNCH

Is this definitely their first child?

i can't find a marriage


Attach to Family Tree
Philip Clark
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Philip Clark
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Enumeration District 7f
Gender Male
Age 58
Marital Status Married
Occupation Customs
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1813
Birthplace Ireland
Entry Number 24
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3767/0271
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Philip Clark Head M 58 Ireland
C Clark Wife F 50 Ireland
John Clarke Son M 17 Liverpool
M Clarke Daughter F 16 Liverpool
Jas Clarke Son M 10 Liverpool
Jos Clarke Son M 7 Liverpool
Jane Clarke Sister F 57 Ireland
Sarah Gilligan Lodger F 63 Ireland
Mathew Clark Son M 3 Liverpool

Not what you asked for but in case you don't have the details, Philip's baptism is on 7th July 1813 at Dunshaughlin.
Pârents John and Mary née Laney.
Godparents Peter Laney, Judith Meryman.

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635132#page/70/mode/1up

I am searching for marriage records for Philip Clarke b1813 Ireland (possibly from Dunshaughlin in Co. Meath and Catherine Soraghan b1821. Their first child Patrick was born in 1844 in St. Andrew's church Westmoreland, Dublin. They moved to Liverpool soon after and appear on the 1851 census living in Hockenhall Alley.. Philip worked for Customs and Excise as a weigher. I have searched the Irish Catholic records and on, rootsireland.ie. I have also checked marriage records in Liverpool area but having no luck.