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I have found two cases where the bride and groom have addresses next door to each other, in a parish not their own. I thought at first that this might be accommodation addresses to relieve the pair of the need to get banns read in their home parishes, In fact, I thought at one time that one of the parties was under age or otherwise in difficulties with their family. The period and location, though I don't think it signifies to my query
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Oakes - Prestage Oct 1914 Ardwick, Manchester
Naan-Tyson July 1888 Hulme Manchester

Has anyone experience of the use of addresses in a "foreign" parish in England?

thanks

Hugh Wolfson

Were they married by Licence? That might be one explanation, especially if the 1914 groom was about to be sent overseas.

In the last couple of years a local church was closed while repairs were undertaken. Booked marriages were performed in a nearby parish church. Obviously, in those instancies, the parish 'resident' was out of area.

It does seem odd, though!

No, banns in both cases. But I wondered if the officiating minister might make things easier for himself by using accommodation addresses in his parish and so avoiding having to coordinate with other Ministers by having banns read in the two "home" parishes.

Hugh

I've not come across a case where I can say both parties were using accommodation addys, but it's fairly common for one party (usually the groom) to have an accommodation addy to avoid the need and expense of having banns read in his home parish.

Incidentally, a superintendent registrar's licence was one way to reduce this expense - at least when both home parishes were within the registrar's district.

I certainly have at least one marriage where the parties were marrying out of parish.

In 1871 the couple were both living in a village in Essex but married in a Church, after Banns, in Newington Surrey giving the same road as their place of residence.

Neither had connections to the area and I can only think it was because they were 'Peculiars' and wanted a 'proper' marriage in Church rather than by a Registrar. Although why they travelled so far is any ones guess :-D

Chris

My dad listed his best man's address when my parents married simply because my mum wanted to get married at an out of parish church; it was a "nice church"

May be I was interpreting Hugh's post incorrectly. The impression it gave me was that they married in Parish X, but both gave addresses of say High Street in the Parish of Y

Not quite the same as an accommodation address located in Parish X

Detective - the accommodation addy was in the same parish as the church.

1888 marr at St John the Baptist, Hulme
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZK8-TCX
Addy = 13 Rosamond St, Hulme

A look up at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ gets
St John the Baptist, Renshaw St, Hulme, M15 6NW
St John the Baptist is located at OS Grid Reference - SJ 841964
Founded: 1858 Closed: 1952

A lookup of SJ 841964 gives the corner of Boundary Lane and Arnott Crescent (the church was on the NW corner). 300m N on Boundary La is its junction with Rosamond St.

Then I withdraw my comments. It possibly was an accommodation address. Where did we park the Time Machine? :-D

As it happens, I do have a similar example. They married at the other end of the County. I suspect the age difference was a factor + it wasn't long after the groom was widowed. Both were adults in their middle years. As all three are buried in the same private grave, it's unlikely they were 'carrying on'.

Thank you all for this. One of the marriages (Oakes-Prestage) was at a "nice" and brand new church out of the bride and groom's home parish. The addresses given were in the church's parish, of course.

Hugh

There's nothing to stop people living in one parish, but worshiping in another.
Parishioners have been known to take against the incumbent and go elsewhere.

Hello Det,

True, but as I understand it, you still have to post banns (as well) in the Parish where you live, even if you never set foot in the church there. Unless you get a Licence, as mentioned before. So if you don't really live in the Parish of the church you usually attend, you might need accommodation addresses in that Parish, to avoid hassle.

I'm happy with the possible reasons for the two marriages having had addresses n the Certificate other than the bride and groom's regular addresses.

Thanks again to everybody.

Hugh

I have bought many marriage certs, and have found it more than normal for most to list the same address. It was done to save money.