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I'm so sorry I didn't know I had any more posts after 3rd Dec. When I looked just now I can see you have all been trying to help me. Thanks so much.
Williams birth cert shows his mother as Mary Stewart widow nee McGregor. William dad is unknown. He is called William McGregor on his birth cert.

He did have lots of siblings but the father unknown.
Thanks to ArgyllGran-you spent your credits checking this out.

No Year Status Title Surname Forename Place Parish County/ Burgh Reference Image
1 1915 Tenant Occupier MRS MACGREGOR BARBARA DWELLING HOUSE 6 DUDHOPE CRESCENT ROAD 2 UP DUNDEE DUNDEE BURGH VR98 / 135 / 431,

2 1915 Tenant Occupier MACGREGOR JOHN DWELLING HOUSE 20 DUDHOPE CRESCENT ROAD 1 UP DUNDEE DUNDEE BURGH VR98 / 135 / 428

1915 Valueation Rolls,

1920,
John MacGregor same as above.
also Mrs Isabella MacGregor at various house numbers.

but no Barbara MacGregor in this road.

Perhaps try looking for a marriage match if his parents names are known for a wifes name.

Yes, sorry, Chris - didn't notice that birth reference.
That would make him 26 in 1911.

Well, only one of those 14 William McGregors was 26 in 1911, but didn't live in Dudhope Crescent.
So there's no way of finding out who lived there in either 1911 or 1918, Rosalinda.

Just in case it's relevant, and as I've spent the credits, I might as well give the details of the 26-yr-old in 1911:

Address: 139 Hilltown (seems to be a tenement of flats - several households at the same address).
The McGregors had 2 rooms with one or more windows.
All members born Dundee (so presumably not the right William, as Rosalinda said born Blairgowrie.)

William McGregor, head, 26, packer in jute industry,
Margaret, wife, 25, married 5 years, 4 children, all living,
Bella, daughter, 4
Margaret, daughter, 2
Jane, daughter, 2
John, son, 8 months.

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/trying_to_find/garland/thread/1249394?d=asc

(not sure AG, but did wonder if he was the one above?, bit of a long 'Thread'!, I did post that Birth reference earlier to a William from it)

Chris :)

There were 14 William McGregors living in Dundee in 1911, between the ages of 10 and 40.(Per ScotlandsPeople)

Can't tell their addresses without spending credits on each one.
If we knew his age, it would be possible to narrow it down a bit first.

Is this some relation?? Lived at 2 Upper Dudhope Cres in 1841, apparently:

http://www.robertwhitton.eu/person.php?id=2870&fam=2&pat=Whitton

When was your William McGregor born, Rosalinda?

This fellow has the same reg't number 60012:

William McGregor

in the British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Record Image View

Name: William McGregor
Regiment or Corps: Royal Scots Fusiliers, .2nd Royal Scots Fusiliers
Regimental Number: 9696, 60012
Other Records: Search for 'William McGregor' in other WWI collections

For address search, wondered if it should be Dudhope Crescent?, google brings that up for Dundee (also being Dudhope Crescent Road)


16 February 1918 - Dundee, Perth, Forfar, and Fife's People's Journal

HARMER - LEES. At Dundee, on the 12th inst., Walter G. Harmer, A.1.F., to Lizzie, second daughter of James Lees, No. 2 Dudhope Crescent Rd., Dundee.


29 June 1918 - Dundee, Perth, Forfar, and Fife's People's Journal

CYCLE (lady’s for sale; in good condition. Bisset, 2 Dudhope Crescent Rd.

Chris :)

(I take it you mean the Army Record, not right William, or, the other 'Thread' reference?)


edits (from below, Long, Long Trail)

1919 Absentee Voters Roll

McGregor William 2 Dudhope Cres 60012 Pte 2nd Battn., R.S.F. RSF 10476 6


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3818297


(and to add, below for 1901, if relating)

1901 (Find My Past)
John McGregor Head Married Male 46 1855 Sailor Stanley, Perthshire, Scotland
Charlotte McGregor Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Street 6 Dudhope Crescent Road
Parish Dundee
Country Scotland
County Forfarshire (Angus)
Registration district St Mary
Archive reference RG13

I posted that one on the other thread, Kay, but was told not that one. The other thread has now been deleted.

William
Last name Mcgregor
Service number 3772
Regiment Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
Unit / Battalion 3/5th Battalion
Event year 1916
Age 29
Birth year 1887
Birth town -
Birth county -
Birth country -
Residence town Dundee
Residence county Angus
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain
brightsolid online publishing ltd.

Record show he was married 1913 to Ella Barry Parker ,one son William.

addresses showing,
27 Patons Lane Dundee,
Discharge 1920/1 address,33 Watt Street Dundee.

?

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Chris, this is not the same William McGregor. I found a William McGregor on the Long lost trail living at 2 Dunhope Cres Dundee in 1918. He was a private in the Royal Scots Fusiliers as was my William McGregor so I have been trying to find his service number on Ancestry to see if it's the same on as the one on Long Lost Trail. I know he was married and possibly had a son and a daughter (from his inquest report) but I don't know their names.

(if below relates)

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/trying_to_find/garland/thread/1249394?d=asc

Chris :)

Rosalinda Report 18 Nov 2010 22:24

I'm looking for both ancestors and descendants was starting with ancestors. The marriage cert 12/2/1903 shows Catherines parents as Thomas Garland licensed street porter deceased and Margaret Garland nee Cluft. Witness Mary Kelly. Catherine was 24.
William McGregor was born in Blairgowrie 31/5/1885 westfield terrace rattray. mother was widow of james stewart.
David mcgregor died 13/5/1938 address 208 seagate dundee
mary jane mcgregor died 5/1/1945
William was in the scots fusilers in 1st world war.
Thanks


rootgatherer Report 8 Apr 2011 12:21

Had a look on Ancestry for possible service records of William. The problem is we don't know if he enlisted as Stewart or McGregor but it may be worth checking this one out to see if it is your William?

Name: William McGregor
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age at enlistment: 29
Residence: 27 Patons Lane, Dundee
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 3772
Regiment Name: A & SH
Number of images: 14


This one married Ella Barry Parker in Dundee on 3rd October 1913 and there is one son listed - William Parker born 9 November 1914.

If you look up the marriage on Scotlandspeople you will get his parents names.

Keep it alll on one thread please Rosalinda.

Can you tell us how you arrived at this rellie so we may be able to get a better picture.

What else do you know about him please.

The 1911 census for Scotland is only on Scotlands People website which is pay to view. I,m afraid :-)


Connected thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1356496

I have found a relative from the Long lost trail living at 2 Dunhope Cres Dundee in 1918. (absent voters list)

Please can anyone tell me if there is anyway I can find out who else lived at this address? I am trying to find out who his wife and children were.

His name William McGregor