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Hannah Carter
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Hannah Carter
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolborough, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Wolborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: "Newton Abbot Union Workhouse" Newton Abbot
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: Newton Abbot Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2166
Folio: 92
Page Number: 12



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Ann Carter
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Ann Carter
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Relationship: Servant
Birth Year: 1872
Birth Place: Newton Abbot, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Residence Place: Chelsea, London, England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, Institution or Vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 63
Folio: 74
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederic White 41
Constance White 33
Gwendoline White 2
Sarah Martin 32
Harriet Martin 29
Ann Carter 19
Emily Dove 14

??? No mms on GRO;

Anna Maria Carter
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Anna Maria Carter
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 154

ROGER H
Last name MARTIN
Birth year 1929
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name Short
District Cuckfield
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 207
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006


Roger Harry Martin
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1929
Registration Date: Apr 2002
Registration district: Denbighshire North
Inferred County: Clwyd
Register Number: B136
District and Subdistrict: 8111B
Entry Number: 119

Possible deaths


First name(s) EDWIN W
Last name MARTIN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1864
Age 57
Death quarter 4
Death year 1921
District Cuckfield
County Sussex
Volume 2B
Page 203
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007



First name(s) CLARA
Last name MARTIN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1865
Age 59
Death quarter 4
Death year 1924
District Cuckfield
County Sussex
Volume 2B
Page 177
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Green Horsted Keynes East Grinstead, Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Edwin William Martin Head Married Male Farm Labourer 46 1865 Sussex Horsted Keynes Transcription
Clara Martin Wife Married Female - 45 1866 Middlesex Hounslow Transcription
Ellen Martin Daughter Single Female General Servant Domestic 18 1893 Sussex Horsted Keynes Transcription
Mark Henry Martin Son - Male School 11 1900 Sussex West Hothley Transcription
Harry Martin Son - Male School 9 1902 Sussex Horsted Keynes Transcription

Based on his birth date this looks the most likely birth

Births Dec 1901
Martin Harry Cuckfield 2b 147

GRO record showing mmn

MARTIN, HARRY GILBERT
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in CUCKFIELD UNION Volume 02B Page 147

Harrys parents marriage
Marriages Sep 1886
GILBERT Clara Brentford 3a 202
MARTIN Edwin William Brentford 3a 202

Parents marriage. Again you need the cert to go back

Marriages Jun 1899
Carter Hannah Maria Cuckfield 2b 364
Short Richard Cuckfield 2b 364


Not seeing Hannah's birth so you need the cert for her fathers name

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Federation Villa, Ashenground Road, Haywards Heath, Cuckfield, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Short Head Married Male 31 1870 Upholsterer Wivelsfield, Sussex, England Transcription
Hannah Maria Short Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Torquay, Devon, England Transcription
Lucy Carter Short Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Haywards Heath, Sussex, England Transcription
Naomi Short Mother Widow Female 62 1839 No Occupation Wivelsfield, Sussex, England Transcription
George William Cramp Boarder Single Male 24 1877. Grocers assistant Southall Middlesex

Note they have Richards mother living with them



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Federation Villas Ashenground Road Haywards Heath, Haywards Heath, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Richard Short Head Married Male Upholsterer And Cabinet Maker 41 1870 Wivelsfield Sussex Transcription
Hannah Maria Short Wife Married Female Domestic Duties 39 1872 Newton Abbot Devon Transcription
Lucy Carter Short Daughter School Female School 10 1901 Haywards Heath Sussex Transcription
Richard Stephen Short Son - Male - 8 1903 Haywards Heath Sussex Transcription
Annie Isobel Short Daughter - Female - 6 1905 Haywards Heath Sussex Transcription
Nora Naomi Short Daughter - Female - 5 1906 Haywards Heath Sussex Transcription
Percival Harry Short Son - Male - 4. 1907. Haywards Heath. Sussex


1939 register
Short Household (8 People)
Federation Villa Ashenground Road , Cuckfield U.D., Sussex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Hannah M Short 12 Jun 1871 Home Duties
Richard S Short 13 Nov 1902 Upholsterer & Cabinet Maker & Master
Phillis Short 06 Jan 1904 Home Duties
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Nora N Short 21 Nov 1905 Home Duties
Richard Short 14 May 1869 Upholsterer Master Retired Incapacitated
Sydney J L Heavens 05 Oct 1907 Cooperative Under Manager Provision Department

Birth

ANNIE ISOBEL
Last name SHORT
Birth year 1904
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Cuckfield
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 127
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

It's a spelling error on the cert
SHORT, ANNIE ISOBEL CARTER
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in CUCKFIELD Volume 02B Page 127

Baptism
First name(s) Annie Isabel
Last name Short
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1904
Baptism date 22 Oct 1904
Residence Cuckfield, Sussex, England
Place Cuckfield
County Sussex
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Short
Mother's first name(s) Hannah Maria
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

With some closed records for the other children possibly


Martin Household (5 People)
The Aviaries Ashenground Road , Cuckfield U.D., Sussex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Harry Martin 12 Sep 1901 South Down Bus Conduct
Anne I Martin 09 Sep 1904 Unpaid Domestic Dut
Rodger H Martin 08 Apr 1929 At School
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Well you need their marriage cert for the ages and fathers names

However the parents may be on the 1939 register
Will take a look

Roger martin 1929 cuckfield
Bryan martin 1932 cuckfield
David martin 1934 cuckfield

mothers name is Annie I Short.
father Harry Martin married 1928 cuckfield

any help on tracing further back would be appreciated please