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Edward Roughley - Hull

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Roy

Roy Report 13 Feb 2018 13:24

I am trying to find information on Edward Roughley. I believe that he was playing football for Hull City at the time of 1911 census.

Could anyone confirm that there is an Edward Roughley living in the East Yorkshire area in 1911, who was born in Lancashire around 1879/80, please?

Many thanks

Roy McDonald

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Feb 2018 13:29

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7 Brougham ST, Sculcoates, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Roughley Head Married Male 31 1880 Lancs Bickerstaffe Professional Footballer Transcription
Margaret Roughley Wife Married Female 32 1879 Lancs Wigan - Transcription
Alice May Roughley Daughter - Female 2 1909 Lancs Prescot -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Feb 2018 13:30

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, Derby Square, Prescot, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas Roughley Head Married Male 47 1854 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Hewer Transcription
Catherine Roughley Wife Married Female 50 1851 Rainford, Lancashire, England - Transcription
George Roughley Son Single Male 23 1878 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England Watch Balance Maker Transcription
Edward Roughley Son Single Male 21 1880 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England Watchmaker Finisher Transcription
Margaret Roughley Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England Dressmaker Transcription
James Roughley Son Single Male 15 1886 Prescot, Lancashire, England Apprentice Watch Pinion Maker Transcription
Thomas Roughley Son - Male 12 1889 Prescot, Lancashire, England - Transcription
Katie Roughley Daughter - Female 8 1893 Prescot, Lancashire, England - Transcription

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Feb 2018 13:31

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1879
ROUGHLEY Edward HEYES Bickerstaff Preston BICK/9/46

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Feb 2018 13:36

Baptism: 30 Dec 1883 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Roughley - [Child] of Thomas Roughley & Catherine
Born: 3 Sep 1883
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: H. A. MacNaghten
Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1887, Page 111, Entry 884
Source: LDS Film 1657584

Baptism: 25 Apr 1886 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
James Roughley - [Child] of Thomas Roughley & Catherine
Born: 24 Mar 1886
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: Frederick Lee
Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1887, Page 171, Entry 1362
Source: LDS Film 1657584

Baptism: 21 Apr 1889 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Roughley - [Child] of Thomas Roughley & Catherine
Born: 25 Feb 1889
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: D. Holland Stubbs
Register: Baptisms 1887 - 1895, Page 44, Entry 351
Source: LDS Film 1657584

Baptism: 21 Aug 1892 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Kate Roughley - [Child] of Thomas Roughley & Catherine
Born: 15 Jul 1892
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: H. Mitchell
Register: Baptisms 1887 - 1895, Page 128, Entry 1018
Source: LDS Film 1657584


Burial of the 'first' Thomas

Burial: 5 May 1885 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Roughley -
Age: 1 year and 6 months
Abode: Prescot
Buried by: H. A. MacNaghten
Register: Burials 1880 - 1886, Page 178, Entry 1418
Source: LDS Film 1657597

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Feb 2018 13:59

1881
Ormskirk Road, Bickerstaffe, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Thomas Roughley Head Married Male 27 1854 Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Transcription
Catherine Roughley Wife Married Female 29 1852 Rainford, Lancashire, England -
Transcription
Elizabeth Roughley Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England Scholar
Transcription
George Roughley Son Single Male 3 1878 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England -
Transcription
Edward Roughley Son Single Male 1 1880 Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England -
Transcription
Thomas Heyes Boarder Single Male 31 1850 Rainford, Lancashire, England Farm Labourer

Hull City 1-0 Oldham Athletic

Second round: 4th February 1911

Attendance: 14,000

Scorer: Arthur Temple {60}

Ranked at the time: 82

{Above Hull legend Tommy Browell}

During the 1909/10 season Hull and Oldham, two clubs who had never played among the elite before, had fought a ding dong battle for the second promotion place in the Second division. In December 1909 Hull had easily beaten Oldham 4-0 at The Anlaby Road circle to take the upper hand in the promotion battle but the decider was to be at Oldham on April 30th. Hull went into the game needing a draw for promotion to the top flight, Oldham had to win and the Latics did just that, emphatically triumphing 3-0 to book their debut in the First Division. Hull were naturally confident of putting the matter right in 1910/11 season but their promotion hopes were already slipping away when fate handed them a chance of revenge over the team who had denied them promotion. Worse still for Hull fans was that Oldham were doing okay among the elite when they returned to The Circle for the second round cup tie in which old scores were settled in a tetchy first half in which the ref's whistle was overworked. Play from the home side was considered aggressive but effective as they had the better of the first period, although both Fay and Woodger should have put the visitors in front by the interval. Hull really went for it in the second period and dominated the visitors and deservedly took the lead when Gordon Wright's cross eluded the Oldham backs and was finished off by City's first great striker Arthur Temple on the hour. Tim Wright should have settled the issue minutes later but missed when well placed and other chances went begging as Oldham rarely looked like getting back into it. For Hull then some revenge, inflicting Oldham's first taste of cup upset football A great day out at mighty Newcastle was Hull's reward in the third round when 46,000 people, the biggest crowd ever to watch the Tigers at that time saw them recover from going a goal down within five minutes to level through Joe Smith. Newcastle's star studded side kicked on to a 3-1 lead, though their fans were still made to sweat when Smith scored again in the dying minutes. These great days for the Tigers suggested that top flight football must surely be just around the corner but it proved a case of so near and yet so far as ninety-eight years would pass before the club finally achieved top flight status. Hull's teenage forward Tommy Browell was more fortunate, being snapped up by Everton at the end of the season and becoming an instant hero to the Goodison faithful. It was as a Manchester City striker that he truly would be remembered though, giving that club great service which was highlighted by the defeat of local rivals United in the only meeting between the sides in an F A cup semi final in 1926. Browell was by then a seasoned veteran, picking up a runners up medal that year. Today a street near City's former Maine Road home bears his name.

Hull City: 1:Ed Roughley, 2:Tommy Nevins, 3:Jack McQuilan, 4:Tim Wright, 5:Andy Browell, 6:Davy Gordon, 7:Joe 'Stanley' Smith, 8:Arthur Temple, 9:Tommy Browell, 10:Wally Smith, 11:Gordon Wright

Oldham Athletic: 1:Hugh McDonald, 2:Jimmy Hodson, 3:James 'Snowy' Hamilton, 4:Hugh Moffat, 5:David Walder, 6:David Wilson, 7:Tommy Broad, 8:Jimmy Fay, 9:Alf Toward or Stan Miller, 10:George 'Lady' Woodger, 11:Joe Donnachie

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Feb 2018 15:20

Saw below...

03 August 1907 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, England

Professionals Reinstated.
Edward Roughley, Skelmersdale United:

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Feb 2018 16:51

Roy has thanked me off board.

Roy

Roy Report 15 Feb 2018 10:54

Many thanks to all those who responded, so promptly to my enquiry. You have helped me to confirm some of the back-story of a remarkable man.

Could I prevail on this community to ask another question? Based on the information contained in the answers above, would anyone be able to confirm his war record for the Great War, please?

Many thanks in anticipation of your help.

Roy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Feb 2018 12:11

Could this be him?

Edward Roughley
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire) Regiment
Regimental Number: 21231
Previous Units: 11th South Lancs 21231 Pte, 11th South Lancs 21231, 1/4th South Lancs 21231

Do you know what his regimental number was or have you any of his medals please?

There are a couple of Edward Roughley's on the millitary with different numbers.