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Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	Maureen	Report	22 Jul 2018 16:26
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	do I have to look in Scottish files for a person born in Ayrshire as I cant find any information on the search records here maureen
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	22 Jul 2018 16:37
	???? 1851 Census 9 Records found Piece: SCT1851/585 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 7 Civil Parish: Dailly Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dailly Folio: 0 Page: 5 Schedule: 18 Address: Heather Row Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks JONES Alexander Head M M 32 Coal Miner Ayrshire - Dailly JONES Margaret Wife M F 33 Seamstress Ayrshire - Dailly JONES Andrew Son U M 9 Scholar Ayrshire - Dailly Page: 0/6 JONES David Son U M 8 Scholar Ayrshire - Dailly JONES Margaret Dau - F 6 Ayrshire - Dailly xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx JONES Joan Dau - F 4 Ayrshire - Dailly JONES Elisabeth Dau - F 2 Ayrshire - Dailly MCCRINDLE Mary Dau - F 6m Ayrshire - Dailly MCCRINDLE Ann Daulaw - F 13 Seamstress Ayrshire - Dailly relationship as enumerated.
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	22 Jul 2018 16:38
	???? 1851 Census 7 Records found Piece: SCT1851/582 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 14 Civil Parish: Colmonell Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Colmonell Folio: 0 Page: 5 Schedule: 16 Address: Ebans Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks JONES James Head M M 41 Farmer Of 43 Acres Ayrshire - Girvan JONES Elisabeth Wife M F 43 Farmer's Wife Ayrshire - Barr JONES Hugh Son U M 21 Farmer's Son Ayrshire - Colmonell JONES Thomas Son - M 14 Ayrshire - Colmonell JONES Margaret Dau - F 11 Ayrshire - Colmonell xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx JONES Anthony Son - M 9 Ayrshire - Colmonell JONES Matthew Son - M 4 Ayrshire - Colmonell hi who did margaret marry ?
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	Maureen	Report	22 Jul 2018 16:44
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	she married Richard turner from barton upon irwell
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	22 Jul 2018 16:54
	hi when and where
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	Maureen	Report	22 Jul 2018 17:04
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	they married in 1864 in Salford lancs Ive got info on Richard turner but cant find anything about Margaret before she married him. I know she came from Ayrshire but nothing about her family. maureen
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	22 Jul 2018 17:05
	Marriage: 20 Mar 1864 St Bartholomew, Salford, Lancashire, England Richard Turner - (X), 28, Soldier 49th Regt., Bachelor, Barracks Margaret Jones - 20, Spinster, Pendlebury Groom's Father: Thomas Turner, Weaver Bride's Father: Rowland Jones, Labourer Witness: Thomas Tomkinson, (X); Hannah Tomkinson Married by: James Moore Register: Marriages 1846 - 1869, Page 148, Entry 296 Source: LDS Film 1786463
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	Maureen	Report	22 Jul 2018 17:22
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 80 Send Message	hi so would I be better finding out about her father Rowland jones to find out where in Ayrshire she lived previous to pendlebury . thank you for all your help
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jul 2018 17:58
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	Is this your family in 1881? 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Higher Croft, 33, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Richard Turner Head Married Male 38 1843 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England Thread Polisher Margaret Turner Wife Married Female 37 1844 Scotland Thread Polisher James Turner Son Single Male 14 1867 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England Doffer (Cotton) Jane Turner Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England Scholar Thomas Turner Son Single Male 9 1872 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England Scholar Richard Turner Son Single Male 7 1874 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England Scholar William Turner Son Single Male 4 1877 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England Scholar Sarah A Turner Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Barton on Irwell, Lancashire, England - If not could you please post a census that you have them on
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,031 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	22 Jul 2018 20:43
	How do you know she was from Ayshire? The marriage record as posted by safc doesn't suggest that. EDIT: Oh, I see. The 1891 census says Ayrshire: Margret Turner in the 1891 England Census Name: Margret Turner Gender: Female Age: 46 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1845 Spouse: Richard Turner Child: James Turner Jane Turner Thos Turner Richd Turner Wm Turner Sarah Ann Turner George Turner Birth Place: Ayrshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Barton upon Irwell Residence Place: Barton, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: Barton ED, Institution or Vessel: 14 Neighbors: Piece: 3155 Folio: 18 Household Members: Name Age Richard Turner 48 Margret Turner 46 James Turner 24 Jane Turner 32 Thos Turner 19 Richd Turner 17 Wm Turner 13 Sarah Ann Turner 11 George Turner 9 EDIT again: 1871 (Ancestry version) also says she's from Ayrshire.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	22 Jul 2018 20:47
	1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Higher Croft, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Richard Turner Head Married Male 48 1843 - Thread Polisher Transcription Margaret Turner Wife Married Female 46 1845 Ayrshire, Scotland - Transcription James Turner Son Single Male 24 1867 - Dyer Transcription Jane Turner Daughter Single Female 22 1869 - Winder Transcription Thomas Turner Son Single Male 19 1872 - Thread Polisher Transcription Richard Turner Son Single Male 17 1874 - Thread Polisher Transcription William Turner Son - Male 13 1878 - - Transcription Sarah Ann Turner Daughter - Female 11 1880 - - Transcription George Turner Son - Male 9 1882 - -
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,031 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	22 Jul 2018 20:54
	ScotlandsPeople only shows four Margaret Jones born in Ayrshire 1839-1850. None of their fathers is named Rowland or similar. Twelve in the whole of Scotland in that time frame - no fathers called Rowland.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,334 Send Message	alviegal	Report	22 Jul 2018 22:01
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,334 Send Message	No help with her father but this appears to be her. Manchester Prison Registers 1847-1881 Transcription Print View image Add to tree First name(s) Margaret Last name Turner Age 22 Y 2 M Gender Female Birth year 1844 Birth place Ayrshire Birth county Ayrshire Event year 1866 When received date Apr 1866 Place Salford County Lancashire Country England Date range 1863-1867 Locality of record Salford New Bailey Prison Title of records Female Description Book She was 5' 1/4", fresh complexion, brown hair, grey eyes. She lived in Tonge Lane, Middleton and was a factory operative. She was married with 1 child still living and had a scar in the centre of her forehead. She was convicted of stealing a shirt at Middleton and sentenced to 14 days hard labour. She was 9 stone 7lbs on admission and 9 stone 8 lb on discharge, Her religion is Ch and education is N. ( not too sure what these abbreviations are)
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jul 2018 22:41
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Higher Croft, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard Turner Head - Male 27 1844 - Lancashire, England Margaret Turner Wife - Female 26 1845 - Scotland James Turner Son - Male 4 1867 - Lancashire, England Martha J Turner Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Lancashire, England ----------------------- ??? Births for named children in 1871/81/91 census for above family - mmn FERGUSON, not Jones. Haven't found an obvious registration for William 1876/7 or Thomas 1871/2 Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: TURNER, JAMES FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in BARTON-UPON-IRWELL Volume 08C Page 504 Order TURNER, MARTHA JANE FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 535 TURNER, RICHARD FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 606 TURNER, SARAH ANN FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in BARTON UPON-IRWELL Volume 08C Page 667 TURNER, GEORGE FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 658 Order
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,334 Send Message	alviegal	Report	22 Jul 2018 22:59
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,334 Send Message	TURNER, GEORGE FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 658 TURNER, SARAH ANN FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in BARTON UPON-IRWELL Volume 08C Page 667 TURNER, RICHARD FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 606 TURNER, MARTHA JANE FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 535 TURNER, JAMES FERGUSON Order GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in BARTON-UPON-IRWELL Volume 08C Page 504 I think these are the births of some of their children. Can't find Thomas or William but all the rest seem to fit. Surely too much of a coincidence? Mother's MS is Ferguson though? EDIT Sorry greyghost I see you're thinking along the same lines as me.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jul 2018 23:07
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	Snap Alviegal !! Far too much of a coincidence me thinks
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jul 2018 23:19
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	Would this also be too much of a coincidence? Marriage record has Richard in 49th Foot British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 Country Great Britain Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1861 First name Richard Last name Turner Service number 3637 Rank Private Unit or Regiment 49th Foot (Hertfordshire-Princess Charlotte Of Wales) Regiment stationed at Portsmouth Year 1861 National Archives reference WO12 / 6085 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,334 Send Message	alviegal	Report	22 Jul 2018 23:22
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,334 Send Message	The Richard Turner in the marriage record would have been born c1836 if he was being truthful.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jul 2018 23:34
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	The 1871/81/91 census as posted show Richard Turner to be born c 1843 in Barton However, the marriage record shows him as aged 28 in 1864 so born c 1835/6 Is this him? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Aldershot, Farnham, Hampshire, England First name(s) Richard Last name Turner Relationship Head Marital status Unmarried Sex Male Age 26 Birth year 1835 Occupation Private Birth town Barton Birth town as transcribed BARTON Birth county Lancashire Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE Birth place (other) England Birth place other as transcribed - Street - Parish Aldershot City or borough - County Hampshire Country England Municipal ward - Parliamentary borough - Registration district Farnham Enumeration district - Archive reference RG09 Piece number 431 Folio 31 Page 22
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	greyghost	Report	22 Jul 2018 23:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,607 Send Message	Snap again Alviegal. Not that it helps with who Margaret was ............. Could she have made up the Father Rowland?

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