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Are we confusing 2 different people perhaps?

Name: Richard Turner
Pension Admission or Examination Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1835
Birth Place: Barton, Essex, Lancaser
Pension Admission or Examination Date: 10 Aug 1875
Regiment: 49 Foot
Rank: Pte
Regimental Number: 3637

There's a very badly transcribed family on Ancestry in 1851. A lot of it seems to be guesswork, because the document is largely unreadable. The Ancestry transcriber has run several households together.

I'll post it as transcribed, with the relevant family marked.
Can anyone find it on FMP, maybe with a better transcription? (But hard to see how, in view of the state of the original record.)


Margaret
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Margaret
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Pendlebury
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Pendlebury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 10 [something]
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 2222
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Pendlebury 45 [ don't think there's anyone named Pendlebury]
Ann Pendlebury 36
Pendlebury 12
Pendlebury 7
(not transcribed)
William 15
Ellen 13
Samuel 7
Daniel Smith 43 - visitor , Royal Marines, born Pendleton [he's actually at the bottom of the previous page, two or three households before this one]

[Head of household is unreadable - could the surname be Ferguson ??] <<<<<<
Mary <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
George <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thomas <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Pendlebury <<<<<<<<<<<< [not Pendlebury - surname just "ditto" on image ]
Margaret 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Martha 3 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Robert 10/12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

(not transcribed)
Henry 5
(not transcribed)
Robert



I must admit, I can't see any Ferguson births to match the children - so probably just grasping at straws.

FMP has Daniel Smith with the Smethursts (had to find it via him)

This is who you're trying to decipher - but I can't make out more than below -
? ...............
? ...............
? George
? Thomas
Elizabeth
? Margaret dau
? Martha dau
Robert son 10 months

Actually, I think I've found them - the name's probably Whittaker - so not relevant:

WHITTAKER, ROBERT mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 20 Page 1004

WHITTAKER, MARTHA mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in THE SALFORD UNION Volume 20 Page 958

WHITAKER, MARGARET mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in THE SALFORD UNION Volume 20 Page 746

WHITTAKER, ELIZABETH mm WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in THE SALFORD UNION Volume 20 Page 732

WHITTAKER, THOMAS mms WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 20 Page 466

??

George Whittaker
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)
Name George Whittaker
Event Type Baptism
Christening Date 27 Oct 1832
Christening Place Pendleton, Lancashire
Father's Name Giles Whittaker
Mother's Name Mary Whittaker
Affiliate Publication Number RG4_0133

Alviegal - you wonder if confusing 2 families. your post includes the following -

>>>>>>> Birth Place: Barton, Essex, Lancaser <<<<<<<<

I wonder if that is actually Barton, Eccles, Lancashire

I saw Eccles on some of the originals of census and google brings this up -

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Barton_upon_Irwell,_Lancashire_Genealogy
23 Aug 2017 - Chapelry History. BARTON-UPON-IRWELL, a township and chapelry, in the parish of Eccles, hundred of Salford, S. division of the county of ...

Of course, it might still be someone different

Yes, that was from Fold3 which I can't get into. I thought Essex was a mistake and you're probably correct that it should be Eccles. It's just the date is 1875 when he's married and on the 1871 census. I wonder if anyone has a subscription with fold3?