Olwyn Isobel Moffat

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Member Since: January 2006 Posts: 14 Send Message	Audrey	Report	13 Feb 2021 18:55
Member Since: January 2006 Posts: 14 Send Message	Born 1929 in Lancaster UK Mother Frances Moffat Father unknown Birth certificate shows Olwyn was put up for adoption Would love to find out what happened to her but records seem to have disappeared
Member Since: December 2005 Posts: 14,699 Send Message	Kay????	Report	13 Feb 2021 19:41
	The records havnt disappeared adoption full records are closed records and not in the public domain,,,,they are confidential and only accessed by the adopted person themselves,,,,,, Her surname at least would have been changed and possibly christian names aswell,so no hope of discovering who she became.unless the mother married and she was then formally adopted by her husband.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,499 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	13 Feb 2021 20:35
	If you are a blood relation, you can add yourself to the National Adoption Contact Register Adoption records are accessible ONLY to the adopted child The birth record on freebmd shows MMN Sanderson Frances Sanderson married John Moffat in Carlisle in 1922
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	13 Feb 2021 21:30
	i dont see this birth for olwyn
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	13 Feb 2021 23:04
	Not seeing any such birth Where did you get the info
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	13 Feb 2021 23:07
	? Alwyn I Moffat Registration Date: Oct 1929 [Nov 1929] [Dec 1929] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Lancaster Inferred County: Lancashire Mother's Maiden Name: Sanderson Volume Number: 8e Page Number: 832 But this one shows mum was married Possibly Marriages Dec 1922 MOFFAT John J Sanderson Carlisle 10b 1013 Sanderson Frances Moffat Carlisle 10b 1013
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,272 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	13 Feb 2021 23:56
	?? Frances Sanderson in the 1911 England Census Name: Frances Sanderson Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Carlisle Civil Parish: Carlisle Country: England Street Address: 113 Union St Marital status: Single Occupation: Manufacture Of Biscuits Registration District Number: 574 Sub-registration District: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 04 Piece: 31307 Household Members: Name Age William Sanderson 46 William Sanderson 19 Maggie Sanderson 17 Frances Sanderson 15 Kate Sanderson 13 John James Moffat in the 1911 England Census Name: John James Moffat Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Carlisle Country: England Street Address: 16 Harrison Street Carlisle Marital status: Single Occupation: Cotton Dyer Registration District Number: 574 Sub-registration District: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 31314 Household Members: Name Age Beatrix Moffat 53 Jemina Moffat 24 George Moffat 22 Thomas William Moffat 20 Jane Thompson Moffat 18 John James Moffat 15 John J Moffat in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: John J Moffat Death Age: 64 Birth Date: abt 1896 Registration Date: Jan 1960 [Feb 1960] [Mar 1960] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Carlisle Inferred County: Cumberland Volume: 1a Page: 22 ??? John J Moffatt in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: John J Moffatt Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 26 Oct 1895 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 18 Residence Place: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Occupation: ?? Dycing Dyer Winch Line Number: 29 Schedule Number: 259 Sub Schedule Number: 4 Enumeration District: HABH Borough: Carlisle Registration district: 574/1 Household Members Age Margaret Little 42 This record is officially closed. Margaret Little 15 John J Moffatt 44 Doris Moffatt 16 [ later surname Bowman] No Frances or Olwen with them in 1939 Births Sep 1923 (>99%) Moffat Doris Sanderson Carlisle 10b 1037
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	13 Feb 2021 23:59
	Perhaps Frances's husband was not the father of the baby and she didn't name the father or he wouldn't let her give his name as father. The surname would still be his as this would be the mother's surname at the time if she was still married to him. Kath. x
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,272 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	14 Feb 2021 00:23
	A sibling ?? Births Dec 1927 (>99%) Moffat Joyce Sanderson Carlisle 10b 823 Joyce Moffat in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Joyce Moffat Death Age: 1 Birth Date: abt 1928 Registration Date: Jan 1929 [Feb 1929] [Mar 1929] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Carlisle Inferred County: Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 880 Other possible siblings born in Carlisle: Harold 1925, Gwennith 1931
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 16,802 Send Message	Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!	Report	18 Feb 2021 23:28
	More on Frances here: https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1094363 Rose
	Researching: I am not related to you and I'm not your husband's first wife!
Member Since: January 2006 Posts: 14 Send Message	Audrey	Report	6 Mar 2021 16:22
Member Since: January 2006 Posts: 14 Send Message	Thank you all for your replies. Much appreciated
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,499 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	6 Mar 2021 17:00
	Add yourself to the national adoption contact register Are you in contact with the GR member who has her in his tree? ( With the correct spelling of her name)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,758 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	6 Mar 2021 17:09
	I see you have the birth certificate. What was Olwyn's actual date of birth?
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 63,499 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	11 Jul 2021 20:56
	Another thread started now on FLR

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