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23 Feb 2021 13:19 |
Derek is applying for the marriage certificate for his Mum May to Ernest Steels
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21 Feb 2021 19:54 |
his father is Ernest Steels and Mother MaySteels Maiden name Neals She married Ernest About two months before his birth Her previous married name was Moulds on the marriage record to Ernest
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21 Feb 2021 19:41 |
If Derek has his own B/C does it hav full names of parents.?
and the marriage certificate for May and Ernest,?
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21 Feb 2021 17:45 |
:-D
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21 Feb 2021 17:36 |
It possibly will remain a mystery why she used a different maiden name for Derek and his brother,,,,
unless Ernest registered the births and got it wrong,?which is a possibilty for a man, :-D
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21 Feb 2021 17:22 |
On her Birth certificate Preston was given as Mothers Maiden name
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21 Feb 2021 16:51 |
The sisters birth was mothers maiden name as-----------Jeeves,,,,not Neal,
If Neal was given for both sons then some twist of truth was in the making..but for reasons unknown as May and Ernest were marreid then,,,,,,
a look at the newspaper brief of 1931 in full may reveal more but a sub or paid credits is needed,,,at findmypast.
who was given for the motehrs parents.on her birth certificate.
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21 Feb 2021 15:27 |
Wow Thankyou all so much I am researching this for Derek Steels born 1934 one of the two sons mentioned at Westwood He has his Mothers Birth certificate and his own that has Mothers Maiden name as Meals. He had a sister who was taken and brought up by another family which seems to account for the Court proceedings. Thanks to you all we may now be able to piece this together. Stay safe. :-) :-)
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20 Feb 2021 17:07 |
1 England Census
View1911 England Census
View Map Add or update information Report a problem Name: May Neal Age in 1911: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Peterborough Civil Parish: Peterborough Search Photos: Search for 'Peterborough' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Country: England Street Address: 33 Mayors Walk Peterborough Registration District Number: 170 Sub-registration District: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 8685 Household Members: Name Age Tom Neal 46-----platelayer railways. Flora Maria Neal 43 Cical Neal 14---Cecil. Lily Neal 10 May Neal 9 Daniel Bulmore--Bulimore,wife father.
NOT THE ABOVE. ---------------------------------------
Perhaps the birth certificate of Derek needs to be got to determin the fact........as Neal is certainly given for the mothers maiden name...also the the other birth of Meals
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20 Feb 2021 15:22 |
First name(s) Reginald George Last name Moulds Gender Male Birth day 23 Birth month 12 Birth year 1899 Death quarter 3 Death year 1977 District Peterborough
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Reginald George Moulds 23 Dec 1900 Male Roadman Hunts C C Single 18 4
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20 Feb 2021 15:16 |
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Deaths Jun 1915 (>99%) Jeeves Charlotte 38 Barnet 3a 413
Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%) Jeeves Frank 61 Peterbro' 3b 289
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20 Feb 2021 15:13 |
Name: Francis Albert Jeeves Death Age: 61 Birth Date: 24 Feb 1911 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973 Registration District: St Pancras Inferred County: London
Name: Charles Jeeves Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 17 Jan 1909 Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1909 Baptism Place: England, St Paul, Edmonton, Enfield Father: Frank Jeeves Mother: Charlotte Jeeves
Name: Charles Jeeves Death Age: 84 Birth Date: 17 Jan 1909 Registration Date: Mar 1993 Registration District: Barnet Inferred County: Greater London Register Number: A41D District and Subdistrict: 2191A Entry Number: 43
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20 Feb 2021 14:37 |
Name: Doris Lydia Jeeves Baptism Age: 2 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 16 Jan 1907 Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1909 Baptism Place: England, St Paul, Edmonton, Enfield Father: Frank Jeeves Mother: Charlotte Jeeves
Name: Doris Lydia Underwood Death Age: 92 Birth Date: 16 Jan 1907 Registration Date: Jan 1999 Registration District: Hatfield Inferred County: Hertfordshire Register Number: A42C District and Subdistrict: 5321A Entry Number: 282
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20 Feb 2021 14:12 |
JEEVES, MAY PRESTON GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in HUNTINGDON Volume 03B Page 267
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%) Jeeves Frank Biggleswade 3b 843 Preston Charlotte Biggleswade 3b 843
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First name(s) May Last name Neal Relationship Patient Marital status Single Sex Female Age 8 Birth year 1903 Birth place Hunts Earith Occupation School Institution name Huntingdon County Hospital
NO birth on freebmd for the name May Neal in Huntingdonshire
JEEVES, JULIA FLORENCE PRESTON GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in HUNTINGDON Volume 03B Page 273 JEEVES, VIOLET PRESTON GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in HUNTINGDON Volume 03B Page 277 JEEVES, DORIS LYDIA PRESTON GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 626 JEEVES, CHARLES PRESTON GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 638 JEEVES, FRANK PRESTON GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 618 JEEVES, FRANCIS ALBERT PRESTON GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 640
Parents in 1911 Name: Charlotte Jeeves Age in 1911: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Sawtry, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Southgate Country: England Street Address: 2 Park Terrace, Park Rd, Winchmore Hill Rd, Southgate Marital status: Married Years Married: 15 Estimated Marriage Year: 1896 Registration District Number: 132 Sub-registration District: Edmonton ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Piece: 7387 Household Members: Name Age Frank Jeeves 39 Charlotte Jeeves 35
7 children born in marriage - 5 living
1901 Name: Charlotte Jeeves Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Frank Jeeves Birth Place: Sawtry, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Islington Sub-registration District: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Piece: 166 Folio: 93 Page Number: 53 Household Schedule Number: 416 Household Members: Name Age Frank Jeeves 27 Charlotte Jeeves 24 Violet Jeeves 1
The two children who died
Deaths Mar 1898 (>99%) Jeeves Julia Florence 0 Huntingdon 3b 173
Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%) JEEVES Frank 4 Edmonton 3a 216
A note on the 1911 census says that the enumerator was unable to verify info - the form had been 'left next door'.
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20 Feb 2021 14:04 |
1939 152 Westwood Street, Peterborough, Peterborough M.B., Northamptonshire Ernest Steels 24 Mar 1885 Male Railway Engineering Gang Maintenance & Repair Staff Married 17 1 May Steels 05 May 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 17 2 Derek (Alfred) Steels 08 May 1934 Male At School Single 17 3 The record for this person is officially closed. Cecil C Steels 10 Aug 1920 Male Loco Engine Cleaner Single 17 5
Births Sep 1920 (>99%) Steels Cecil G Cornwell Peterbro' 3b 436
Name: Annie Cornwell Gender: Female Age: 20 Birth Date: 1888 Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1908 Marriage Place: Deeping-St. James, Lincoln, England Father: William Henry Cornwell Spouse: Ernest Steels
Name: Annie Steels Death Age: 40 Birth Date: abt 1888 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1928 Registration District: Peterborough
First name(s) Cecil Charles Last name Steels Gender Male Birth day 10 Birth month 8 Birth year 1920 Death quarter 1 Death year 1999 District Peterborough District number 3351B Register number B62G Entry number 228 Date of registration mm/yy 0399
Births Jun 1934 (>99%) Steels Derek A Neals Peterbro' 3b 279
Births Sep 1935 (>99%) Steels Charles A Meals Peterbro' 3b 255
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20 Feb 2021 07:31 |
? The two 1930s births dont match with mothers maiden name,,one mistake could be an error but 2 just doesnt add up.?
The two sons in 1939 was not children of Mays but relatives of Ernest Steels possibly Grandsons?
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19 Feb 2021 20:40 |
So which one are we looking up please? M A L Jeeves 1905 Barking/ Romford or just May Jeeves Huntingdon???
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19 Feb 2021 20:26 |
Mary Anne Lilian Jeeves
England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1518-1960 Essex, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1518-1960 No Image
Name: Mary Anne Lilian Jeeves Gender: Female Baptism Date: 19 Mar 1905 Baptism Place: Barking, Essex, England Father: William Jeeves Mother: Emma FHL Film Number: 1471844
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19 Feb 2021 19:49 |
I think the maiden name has been mistranscribed,,as Neals.and a GRO error.
Edit ,maybe a false name was given as Meals is used for another child.?
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19 Feb 2021 19:44 |
The woman may have wanted to seem a bit older in 1939, as Ernest was born in the 1880’s
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