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Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 14 Apr 2007 14:37

How do you know that the John Kilbey married to Lavinia is Maude's father? You have mentioned that the marriage cert said he was a timber merchant but Lavinia's husband is an insurance agent. Are you certain that Maude didn't just make up a father for herself when she was married as she didn't like to look illegitimate? There has been a thread about this and it seems the most common method was for the person to take their own surname add John and state he was dead and give him a profession.

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:51

big brick wall i know we have been told maude was born 34 bellville road battersea lived here on wed/cert but 1901 wright family living there rebecca meant to be lodger there rebecca was also a wet nurse for a lord & lady lindsley in chelsea about this time but i can't find them either they also had a house in edinburgh search 1901 scottish cencus rebecca not there if we never had a photo of rebecca i might think maude was found in a sandpit ha ha jenny

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Apr 2007 22:36

This is a real conundrum. I can't find a Maud* with mother Reb* that suits. I wonder if she left the area to have Maude or if Maude is living with relatives?

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:27

my family have always lived in battersea/clapham jenny

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Apr 2007 22:25

Did they live around the Battersea area all the time we're talking about?

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:24

ozi yes jenny

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:14

ozi yes allerton1851 20 min kilbey 1901 hopeing allertons never moved jenny

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:10

ozi sorry she was 23 on marriage cert got married 1923 jenny

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Apr 2007 22:10

Is the Allerton address in 1851 20 mins from the Kilbey address in 1901?

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:08

jill my nan has only death cert and birth cert that was issued when maude died i have married cert went registery office to get it jenny

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Apr 2007 22:08

Jenny, I'm not doubting your information. What I'm doubting is, if your gr-nan wasn't registered until her death, it's only hearsay that she was born in 1900. People can always be out a couple of years when giving ages. Ozi.

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 22:07

reggie thought if we follow rebecca's one may have a child and call her rebecca we know it is a long shot but no other allertons in the same area and this family lived about 20 min walk from kilbey's jenny

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 13 Apr 2007 22:06

So Maude's birth was not registered? Or could it have been registered under a name other than Kilbey? Have you found a baptism record for her? Jill

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Apr 2007 22:01

If Rebecca was giving birth around 1900, she must have been born a lot later than 1845 Reg

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 13 Apr 2007 21:58

1871 Name: James Atterton Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sophia Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: Lambeth St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 28b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 375 Household Members: Name Age James Atterton 55 Gardener Sophia Atterton 51 Annie Atterton 23 Milliner James Atterton 21 Gardener Alice Atterton 19 Dress maker Sophia Attertor 19 (17) Milliner Arthur Attertor 11 Scholar Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 689; Folio: 61; Page: 8; GSU roll: 823334. They are called Allerton whatever it says here James is at home so cannot be the other one

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 21:58

not guessing maude's birthday my mum told me as maude was her nan jenny

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 21:54

john kilbey 15 parkside street battersea wife lavinia kilbey daughter lavinia kilbey on1901 cencus we know this is maudes dad as he is on mar/cert

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Apr 2007 21:53

So are you guessing at Maude's dob? Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Apr 2007 21:48

Where did you find John Kilbey in 1901? Will it help at all? Ozi.

sarah

sarah Report 13 Apr 2007 21:40

hi gill rebecca allerton was rebecca kilbey by 1923 she is my gr gr nan she never married just took kilbey name as she had an illigitimate child called maude kilbey 1900(not registered until death1977) john kilbey is maudes dad have traced him but nothink for rebecca so we looked for rebecca allerton and this is the family we found in our area jenny