Genealogy Chat

Hi, Frances Willder born 1842 Brailsford.died 1929 Derby. I cannot find her birth,cert?? But her brother Francis Willder born 1842 brailsford. died 1942 Alershot. i found his birth/cert number [ ashbourne vol 19 pg 311] Has any one any ideas please??Helenx

Your posting implies that they were twins.......is that the case? Reg

What about this one in 1841 Q3 Willder Fanny, Ashbourne, 19, 333

Reg, Until today i thought they were! Then i thought i had better check the information i have. I know that when these two died is correct because i have there death/certs Does this make sense? Helen

Helen this is her brothers birth reference... Births Dec 1842 (99%) WILLDER Francis Ashborne 19 311 Could she have been born Fanny? Births Sep 1841 (98%) Willder Fanny Ashbourne 19 333 Georgina.

They were baptised together.......... Wilder, British Isles Father: Richard , Mother: Maria Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C055071 [refine search] Prepare selected records for download International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 7 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. SAMUEL WILLDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 09 NOV 1835 Brailsford, Derby, England 2. RICHARD WILLDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1834 Brailsford, Derby, England 3. FRANCIS WILLDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 10 DEC 1842 Brailsford, Derby, England 4. MARY LUCY WILLDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 FEB 1841 Brailsford, Derby, England 5. THOMAS WILLDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 22 OCT 1837 Brailsford, Derby, England 6. FRANCES WILLDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 DEC 1842 Brailsford, Derby, England 7. ANNA MARIA WILDER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 19 AUG 1832 Brailsford, Derby, England Reg

Looking at 1851 census image, the girl is listed first, so one must assume she was older than her brother........had they been twins, he would undoubtedly have taken precedence. Reg

Name: Frances Willder Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Richard Mother's name: Maria Gender: Female Where born: Brailsford, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Brailsford County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Ashborne Sub-registration district: Brailsford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Anna Maria Willder 18 Frances Willder 8 Francis Willder 8 Maria Willder 48 Mary Lucy Willder 10 Richard Willder 63 Richard Willder 17 Sarah Willder 20 Thomas Willder 15

Reg, Georgina, Keith. Many many thanks just reading through what has been written. Helenx