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Help Please Im Stuck with this one!!!

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Sherry

Sherry Report 20 Mar 2007 12:59

Im trying to trace back my Gt Grandmother - ELIZABETH MARY MORRIS b1867 Bermondsey, London. I have her in 1901 census with James McConnell b1867 Bermondsey and their children - Rhudolph, Emily. but I cant find her birth, or marriage to James McConnell and I cant trace her family back through the census years! Although on the 1901 census there is also a Walter Morris with his children, which could possibly be her brother??? but i cant find them together on previous census - so i cant find her parents? I have traced James McConnells family back ok. If anyone can help I would be really grateful!!!!!

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 13:14

Sherry can i ask where on the 1901 they are

Sherry

Sherry Report 20 Mar 2007 13:17

hi yes they are in Wellington Rd, Islington the surname has been spelt Mc Connell if that helps

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 13:27

Hi Sherry Found them on the 1901, just looking for their marriage

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 13:33

bear with me a mo, Elizabeth might have been married before Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cattermole John St. Saviour 1d 220 >>>McConnell James St Saviour 1d 220 Nutchey Ada Rosina St Saviour 1d 220 >>>Stemp Elizabeth Mary St. Saviour 1d 220

Sherry

Sherry Report 20 Mar 2007 13:34

I can only find one marriage thats 1898 St Olave, Southwark but that is to Elizabeth mary Stemp ??? no Morris

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 20 Mar 2007 13:45

can't find any Stemp /Morris marriages that fit Jeanette

Sherry

Sherry Report 20 Mar 2007 13:49

I know its so frustrating!! I just cant seem to trace her?? I cant find Stemp either?

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 14:00

one of these is her birth Births Mar 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MORRIS Elizabeth Bermondsey 1d 110 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MORRIS Elizabeth Bermondsey 1d 70 Sorry i couldn't find a marriage

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 14:02

this is the 1871 Elizabeth Morris Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Thomas Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 256 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Gipps 71 Ralph Millar 39 Clara Morris 8 months Eleanor Morris 15 Eleanor Morris 76 Elizabeth Morris 8 Jane Morris 20 John Thomas Morris 47 Sarah Morris 42 Sarah E Morris 18

Sherry

Sherry Report 20 Mar 2007 14:04

thanks ever so much for tryin julie - I wont know which one will be the right birth cert will i? maybe i should get the mcconnell/stemp marriage cert just to see what it says? ive tried ancestry, familysearch and i just cant work her out!! I cant even find her death registered as Elizabeth McConnell?

Sherry

Sherry Report 20 Mar 2007 14:30

oh Ive just seen the 1871 record youve put up - can i ask why you think this is the right 1871 record? ive found so many morris families in london area I didnt know what one it would be?

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 16:02

Hi Sherry sorry i had to go out. Im not saying that its definitely her, but that was the only Elizabeth Morris i found born as near to yours and also she was born Bermondsey. Julie

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Mar 2007 16:29

Have you found Rudolph's birth? Rose

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 20 Mar 2007 17:32

Might this be Rudolph's birth it ties in with Elizabeth Mary Stemp Ruedolf John Stemp Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Epsom County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 7 (click to see others on page)

Julie

Julie Report 20 Mar 2007 18:38

Good thinking Andrea Theres one for Emily too Births Jun 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stemp Emily Beatrice Epsom 2a 11

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 20 Mar 2007 18:46

This seems more likely to be Emily because it covers Bermondsey: Births Mar 1899 McConnell Emily Frances St. Olave 1d 198 Emily B Stemp is on the census. Rose

Sherry

Sherry Report 23 Mar 2007 12:46

Sorry but Rhudolf is Rhudolph McConnell not Stemp.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 Mar 2007 16:26

Sherry, If he's a McConnell, where's his birth? If he's Emily's and born before the marriage then he can't be a McConnell. He may have been a McConnell when he married but it doesn't mean he was born as one. Rose