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Hi hope you might beable to help trying to find a Edwin Ball had a daughter called Elizabeth Ball she married in 1885 a William Hanson she was age 18 and on her wedding cert it says her father Edwin was decesead and he was a quary man tryiny to find any info on the mothers name i think they came from Derbyshire

Hi Patricia Theres nothing coming up on the 1881

is this her on the 1891 Elizabeth Hanson Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Miller Dale, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Gorton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Hanson 24 Emily Hanson 2 Francis Hanson 5/12 James W Hanson 6 Lily Hanson 4 William Hanson 25

'Deceased' fathers on wedding certs are sometimes (not always, of course) a face-saver for illegitimacy. Do the names of the witnesses hold any clues? Where did the marriage take place? Reg

There is an Olive Ball on the 1871 census in Chapel en le Frith. She has a daughter Elizabeth aged 4 and is a Widow. Marriage ref. Edwin Ball Olive Lomas June Quarter 1853 Macclesfield Volume 8a Page 216 Don't know for certain that this is the one you want.

Julie- that is her have thaat info thanks can not get her fathers and mothers.thanks for looking

Reggie checked witnesses and they do not help but they were married in Manchester

Pamela thanks will give that one a look at keep fingers crossed

Patricia Don't know it you have this its Elizabeth and her siblings 1. ANN BALL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUL 1873 Chapel En Le Frith, Derby, England 2. ENOCH BALL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: OCT 1855 Chapel En Le Frith, Derby, England 3. ELIZABETH BALL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUL 1873 Chapel En Le Frith, Derby, England 4. OLIVE BALL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 20 JUL 1862 Fairfield, Derby, England Ann and Elizabeth were Christened on the same day

this might be Elizabeths birth Births Dec 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ball Elizabeth Chapel en le Frith 7b 579

Found Olive the daughter in the 1871 Olive Ball Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Fairfield Near Buxton, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Hayfield Ecclesiastical parish: Hayfield Town: Great Hamlet County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Hayfield Sub-registration district: Hayfield ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 89 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bailey 20 George Bailey 28 James Bailey 1 Joseph Bailey 2 Olive Ball 9 Ann Hadfield 30 Sarah Hadfield 38 She is a general Servant at only 9

At long last found them on the 1861, but olive is down as alice Joseph Ball Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: Edwin Mother's name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Fairfield, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Fairfield County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub-registration district: Buxton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age Alice Ball 31 Edwin Ball 32 Elizabeth Ball 3 Enos Ball 4 Joseph Ball 1 Image is very bad don't know how they got Alice but it don't look like Olice either Edwin was born in Austerfield, Staffordshire, England

I can't find a death for Edwin

This is interesting 1871 Enock Ball Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Fairfield County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub-registration district: Buxton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Enock Ball 15 Alice Lomas 35 Joshua Lomas 11 Robert Lomas 23 Robert Lomas 14 Mary Salt 15 Joseph Vains 17 Olive's maiden name was Lomas

THANKS ALOT JULIE AND PAMELA YOU ARE BOTH FANTASTIC

Could this be Elizabeth in 1881? Lizzie Ball Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Hartshorn, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Markfield County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Main Street Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: General Servant (Domestic) Registration district: Market Bosworth Sub-registration district: Ibstock ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Lizzie Ball 15 Ann Deacon 68 Fanny Elizabeth Dennis 2 Linda Henry Haywood Dennis 4 John Henry Dennis 34 John Joseph Dennis 3 Mary Dennis 28 Richard Harris 45 Mary Matley 14 David Sharp 18 Benjamin Wright 17 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now