Genealogy Chat

Annie was married in 1890 to Richard Thomas Eaglestone in Greenwich. I can find them in 1891 and 1901 so no problem there then! lol However I cannot find Annie prior to 1881. In 1881 she was a servant born about 1860 in Blackwater, Cormwall. I cannot find a birth record for her either. According to her marrige cert her father was George (deceased), a mariner. Any help would be appreciated please Gerry :-))

1881 Name: Annie Hoyte Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Blackwater, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Plymouth St Andrew County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 43 George St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Gen Ser(Domes) Registration district: Plymouth Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Hoyte 21 Mary Membry 16 Beatrice Simpenny 1 Charles Simpenny 28 Mary Simpenny 28 The tip is to type first in something like word and then copy and paste into thread. Maureen

Thank you Maureen. Yes that is her in 1881. Gerry :-))

I had to look Blackwater up on a map - between Redruth and Truro Maureen

1871 best guess Name: Annie Hoyle Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Daughter Father's name: David Mother's name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Milor, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stoke Damerel Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great Town: Devonport County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Tamar ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 368 Household Members: Name Age Ada Hoyle 1 Annie Hoyle 7 David Hoyle 34 Emma Hoyle 3 Jane Hoyle 31 Lavinia Hoyle 5 William Hoyle 9 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2139; Folio: 33; Page: 57; GSU roll: 832034 Maureen

Unfortunately not Maureen. The one thing I know for sure is her father's name was George. Gerry :-))

This may solve part of the mystery. The only Hoyte born in Cornwall in 1860 was: Births Mar 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOYTE Joanna Truro 5c 190 Could your 'annie' really have been Joanna ??

1861 given the new info Name: Joanna Hoyt Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: St Agnes, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Agnes Ecclesiastical parish: Mithian County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: St Agnes ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Hoyt 37 Elizabeth Hoyt 2 George Hoyt 36 Joanna Hoyt 1 William Hoyt 4 Updated Bother I had already looked at that one - address is Blackwater - but father is a copper miner Image might even be Hoyle Maureen

And, according to the 1861 census, Joanna Hoyte's father was George Hoyte, however only conflict is that he is listed as a copper miner, not a mariner: Name: Joanna Hoyt Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: St Agnes, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Agnes Ecclesiastical parish: Mithian County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: St Agnes ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Hoyt 37 Elizabeth Hoyt 2 George Hoyt 36 Joanna Hoyt 1 William Hoyt 4

Ooo snap, Glitter Baby.

Alison and Maureen You may well both be right. I have just found her death certificate which gives her middle name as Joannah. I am going to have order that birth cert you found and see if it makes it any clearer than mud!! LOL Thank you both Gerry :-))

1871 just posting this one but will have to look at image Name: Johanna Heigle Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: St Agnes, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Illogan Town: Highway County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Illogan ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Heigle 46 George Heigle 45 Jaifer H Heigle 9 Johanna Heigle 11 Mary Heigle 7 William Heigle 14 I think it could be Hoyle but a second opinion would be welcome but again occupation is not a match

Yes looks like Hoyle to me. But all through, this George's occupation is of a miner, copper and tin etc. Are you sure the marriage certificate states mariner, and not miner ?

Just thought I would have another look at this one. Found this birth which could match with the 1871 family Name: Jenefier Huddy Hoyte Year of Registration: 1862 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Truro County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 179 Maureen

Gerry, I think this will make the water even muddier !! 1881 Name: George Hoyte Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Newlyn East, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Illogan County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Illogan High Way Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Cordwainer Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Illogan ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Reuben Edmonds 30 Elizabeth Hoyte 55 George Hoyte 54 Jane Hoyte 20 Mary Hoyte 17 Richard Hoyte Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2333; Folio: 48; Page: 26; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341561 Think I had better leave it there. Maureen

If you said MINER in a heavy Cornish accent, then the Registrar might hear Mariner. OC

Sorry everyone. Had to go for a nap!! Its been doing my head in!! LOL I understand what you are saying OC. Mariner could easily be misunderstood by a Curate in Greenwich hearing a Cornish accent. Btw, yes the Heigle one looks more likey to be Hoyle which makes the water now positively black!! lol Thank you all for your efforts Gerry :-))