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It all fits, except their ages!

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Fox On The Rocks

Fox On The Rocks Report 13 Feb 2007 11:56

After a lot of searching and a little bit of help (well a lot really (thank you georgina, mhari and sheila!) ), I think I have found my GGG Grandparents living in Scotland between 1851 and when they died. However, their ages vary rapidlly. This is what I have: Bridget Docherty (wynn) 1851 aged 25 1861 aged 29 1871 aged 38 1891 aged 65 1891 aged 56 (death) Antony Docherty 1851 aged 28 1861 aged 30 1871 aged 40 1880 aged 43 (death) All the census were given as them living together and their daughter registered both of their deaths. I know its possible she didn't know their exact ages, although I would have thought she would, considering she was their daughter! I was pretty sure I had the right people, but now im afraid ive been following two seperate couples, although the area, their children ect. all adds up. I know its usual for census' to be out a bit, but by this much!?? Another thought is that their daughter did get their ages wrong and the 1851 census isnt them, although again, it does seem to add, with Anthony being a boarder with Bridget and her parents, whose names are correct. Please can someone help/advise? Thank you!!! xx

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Feb 2007 11:59

I did wonder about the ages on your original thread as the 1851 info I found had them 8 years different to what you had thought. But Andrew/Anthony was living with a 'Winn' family. Also the spelling of the surname was slightly different. To further complicate matters there is a marriage for an Andrew Docharty (same spelling from memory on the 1851 census) to a Bridget Reilly in 1852 in New Monkland. Maureen

Fox On The Rocks

Fox On The Rocks Report 13 Feb 2007 12:56

I know, its all confusing! I have since found out, that they possibly lied about being married, as I found a birth of their first child in 1856 and bridget has her maiden name on the cert., however, by 1858, on her second childs birth cert., she is a Docherty. I cant find their marriage as of yet. Im just not sure!?!

Georgina

Georgina Report 13 Feb 2007 14:19

Jodi I looked at that Andrew & Bridget on the 1861 census but then I found a marriage that could be their's on the IGI & their sons birth matches... 1861 census...... Name: Andw Docharty Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Bridget Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 651/2 Registration district: New Monkland Landward Civil parish: New Monkland County: Lanarkshire Address: Collier Tree Road Brick Row Occupation: Labourer ED: 10 Page: 11 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 56 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1861_117 Household Members: Name Age Andw Docharty 40 Andw Docharty 1 Bridget Docharty 38 Mary Docharty 5 From the IGI... ANDREW DOCHARTY Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: BRIDGET REILLY Marriage: MAY 1852 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREW DOHERTY Male Event(s): Birth: 14 NOV 1859 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ANDREW DOHERTY Mother: BRIDGET RILEY Georgina.

Fox On The Rocks

Fox On The Rocks Report 13 Feb 2007 14:59

Thats the family im having problems with. andrew docherty and Bridget Reily got married and had children of the same names as Anthony/Andrew Docherty and Bridget Wynn. I am almost possitive it is Wynn I am looking for. I have an 1861 census at Cowgate, Edinburgh: Anthony Dougherty 30 Bridget 29 Mary 6 John 4 Michael 2 Andrew 6mts Ive also got confirmed birth certs for all barr Andrew of these children being of Anthony Docherty and Bridget nee Wynn. The other family (bridget nee Reily) just seeem to be there to annoy and confuse me!!

Georgina

Georgina Report 13 Feb 2007 15:18

Jodi this has to be your family in 1861 because they have a visitor who must be Bridgets brother mistranscribed as Wyme... Name: Mary Dougherty Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relationship: Daughter Father's name: Anthoney Mother's name: Bridget Gender: Female Where born: Edin, Edinburgh Registration Number: 685/3 Registration district: Canongate Civil parish: Edinburgh Lady Yesters County: Midlothian Address: Cowgate 341 Scotts Land Occupation: Scholar ED: 28 Page: 5 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 24 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1861_127 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Dougherty 6 Mo Anthoney Dougherty 30 Bridget Dougherty 29 John Dougherty 4 Mary Dougherty 6 Michael Dougherty 2 John Wyme 35 Georgina.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Feb 2007 15:21

Sorry but going over old ground again 1851 that I posted on original thread Name: Anthony Doherty Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Parish Number: 685/1 Civil parish: Edinburgh Old Church County: Midlothian Address: Whitehouse Close 276 Canongate Occupation: Ag Lab ED: 5 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 45 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_178 Household Members: Name Age Anthony Doherty 28 Daniel Herin 8 Bridget Winn 25 Jean Winn 15 John Winn 30 Mary Winn 60 Patrick Winn 23

Georgina

Georgina Report 13 Feb 2007 15:27

Jodi this family remind me of my GG Grandmother who was scottish and she never knew how old she was, she went from being 19 in 1861 to being 35 in 1881 & when she died in 1902 she was 52, she was actually born in 1842, I think they were just illiterate & that is why their age varies so much. Georgina.

Fox On The Rocks

Fox On The Rocks Report 13 Feb 2007 15:28

Yes, thats the census ive got. The one I have for them in 1871 fits well with their ages, but the 1851 seems totally out. I guess that the 1851 could be a different family intirely, although it does look and feel right, even though the ages don't fit. I think the informant for both Bridgets and Anthony's death could have been unreliable as in the 1891 census bridget is living with her daughter (mary McGowan) stated as aged 65. Bridget died later that year, stated as being 56. Anthony had the same informant as Bridget.

Fox On The Rocks

Fox On The Rocks Report 13 Feb 2007 15:31

That sounds visable i guess. Thank you both of you. You have both helped me out so much recently. I dont know what I would have done without you!!! xxxxxx