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I am trying to find the marriage of John Abbott he was from Beverley and his wife Ann was also from Beverley Yorks. Their eldest son was born 1840, can anyone find a marriage please for me.

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1839 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ABBOTT John BAUMONT Ann Holy Trinity Hull HD/2/76 http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/

Found this one which you have probably seen. In ths case of one of my relatives the spouse was listed over the page and didn't appear until I sent for the certificate Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ABBOTT John Beverley 23 1 ARNOTT Emma Beverley 23 1 BEILBY Robert Beverley 23 1 HALL Jane Beverley 23 1 NEWCOMBE William Beverley 23 1 ROSS Catherine Beverley 23 1 THOMPSON George Beverley 23 1 WELBURN Aley Beverley 23 1

Thankyou for your time. How would I know for def if that was the one in Hull?

You could order the certificate for the 1840 child? then you would know mother's maiden name.

The only John Abbott I can see in Beverley 1841 is not married (the one with Dad and Grandad also John?) Have you found something I didn't?

Helen I never thought of that. thankyou

Can you post what information you have found please. Have you got John & Ann on a Census? I can see an Ann (Mariners wife) in 1851 who's husband is away from home. The eldest son is 11, William Gray Abbott. If this is the family you are tracing I would think Gray could be Ann's maiden name? Also he could have been born before the marriage? Births Jun 1840 Gray William Beverley 23 1

that's the one Helen from 1851

1841 census.Ann Abbott abt 1821 Yorkshire, England St Nicholas Yorkshire John Abbott abt 1816 Yorkshire, England St Nicholas Yorkshire William Abbott abt 1840 Yorkshire, England St Nicholas Yorkshire

William's baptism WILLIAM GRAY ABBOTT Christening: 28 FEB 1840 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley, Yorkshire, England Parents: Father: JOHN ABBOTT Mother: ANN Batch No C106581

Two of their sons had middle name of Gray also one of their grandchildren, never thought of that been a maiden name of Ann

Can't find the marriage yet but there is definately an Ann Gray of the right age in the right place... ANN GRAY Christening: 02 APR 1822 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley, Yorkshire, England Parents: Father: EDWARD GRAY Mother: ANN Batch No C106621

Helen That does seem to add up dosn't it as he was born Saint Mary and Saint Nicholas, and I have just found a bap for Ann Beaumont 1820 in Saint Mary and St Nicholas with father called Abraham, so if I go to record office and look at this wedding in Hull it should have fathers on it, do you think I can say that we have the right one

Confused me even more now Helen Sue. If I was to order the marriage certificate For John Abbott and Ann for 1839 do you know the No for it, I can't find it in the bmd only the Yorkshire one that you gave me and it dosn't give me one.

I'm a little late to this thread...

From "monumental inscriptions" Beverley Queensgate cemetery...
"In loving memory of ANN the beloved wife of JOHN ABBOTT who died January 31st 1881 aged 60 years. Also JOHN ABBOTT who died March 16th 1890 aged 74 years" .... "In loving memory of KETURAH ANN only daughter of JOHN and KETURAH ANN ABBOTT and granddaughter of the above who died at Hull Nov 5th 1884 aged 3 years 6 months. Dear mother's grave. Our little KATIE"

Note sure what/who the last part refers to.

John Abbott (b.1753 Beverley is my 3rd grt gf), but not seem related to these other Abbotts (possible from a much earlier common relative???).

Hope this info is useful.

--Gary

I thought it best to post the following information here for anyone researching the Abbot(s) of Beverley. In an attempt to trace my family tree I needed to figure out who all the Abbott(s) were in Beverley.

The following covers the 1751 to 1851 time period.

Sorry about the formatting. Single full dates are baptism (+church). MI = moumental inscription number (Minster or Queensgate cemetery).

There appear to be 3 sets of Abbott(s) in Beverley...

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1) family of John Abbott (my 4th ggf) 1753-1844 of Shipton (near York) + Sarah Stead(1751-1821) moved to Beverley c.1800

(children all born in Shipton,died in Beverley)
Ann (1775-)
Sarah (1779-)
(11)John (1783-1856)
Jonathan (1786-1876)
(12)William (1789-1853)
Mary (1791-)
(13)Thomas (1794-1866)

(11)JOHN(1783-1856) + ELIZABETH ???? (1784-1861)
JANE ABBOT - 10 NOV 1813 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
(111)JOHN ABBOTT - 05 APR 1816 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
ELIZABETH ABBOT - 15 DEC 1820 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
JONATHAN ABBOT - 24 DEC 1822 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
ANN ABBOTT - 07 JAN 1824 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
MARY ABBOTT - 09 JUN 1826 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
(112)MARY ABBOTT - 28 JUL 1827 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,

(111)JOHN(1816) + JANE HALL(1816) [confirmed by marriage certificate]
WILLIAM ABBOTT - 17 JAN 1843 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
MARY ABBOT - 22 JUN 1846 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
ELIZABETH ABBOTT - 24 NOV 1850 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JANE ABBOTT - 28 JAN 1858 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,

(12)WILLIAM(1789-1853) + FRANCES ???(1785-1854)
JANE ABBOTT - 22 SEP 1816 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
WILLIAM ABBOTT - 19 SEP 1818 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
THOMAS ABBOTT - 23 APR 1823 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
SARAH CHRISTIANA ABBOTT - 30 DEC 1827 Saint John And Saint Martin,

(13)THOMAS(1794) + HANNAH ???? (1800) m????
SARAH ABBOTT - 18 MAR 1818 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
HANNAH ABBOTT - 21 DEC 1819 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
ELIZABETH MARY ABBOTT - 05 AUG 1822 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas,
ANN ABBOTT - 19 MAR 1824 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
WILLIAM ABBOTT - 15 JAN 1826 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JOHN ABBOT - 22 MAR 1828 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
THOMAS ABBOT - 08 OCT 1829 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JONATHAN ABBOTT - 15 JUL 1831 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JANE ABBOTT - 07 JUN 1833 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
HANNAH ABBOTT - 26 MAY 1835 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
WILLIAM ABBOTT - 02 DEC 1836 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
FRANCIS ABBOTT - 04 DEC 1838 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,

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2) family of Jonathan Abbott(?-?) - mariner and Jane Gray(1794-1827) [possibly of Hull] married 1811 Hull

WILLIAM ABBOTT - 18 MAY 1814 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
(21)JOHN ABBOTT - 19 JAN 1816 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JONATHON ABBOT - 03 MAY 1818 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
JANE GRAY ABBOTT - 28 OCT 1820 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
(22)THOMAS ABBOTT - 16 MAY 1823 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
[father=THOMAS + JANE (POSSIBLE TRANSCRIPTION ERROR???)]

(21)JOHN(1816) + ANN
WILLIAM GRAY ABBOTT - 28 FEB 1840 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JOHN ABBOTT - 29 MAY 1842 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
THOMAS ABBOTT - 15 JUN 1845 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JONATHAN ABBOTT - 07 MAY 1848 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
JOSEPH ABBOTT - 22 SEP 1850 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
EDWIN ABBOTT - 03 JUN 1853 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
ANN ABBOTT - 30 AUG 1855 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
GEORGE ABBOTT - 11 AUG 1859 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
NORMAN GRAY ABBOTT - 11 FEB 1863 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,

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3) family of James Abbott of Skirlaugh

JAMES(1813 SKIRLAUGH) + CAROLINE(d.1846) [1st wife]
SARAH ABBOTT - 26 DEC 1839 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
BENJAMIN ABBOTT - 26 DEC 1841 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
ANNA ABBOT - 08 OCT 1843 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
REBECCA ABBOTT - 14 DEC 1845 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,

JAMES(1813 SKIRLAUGH/d.6-May-1888) + MARY(b1815/d.14-May-1888) MI394
THOMAS ABBOTT - 06 APR 1849 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
JANE ABBOTT - 14 NOV 1850 Saint John And Saint Martin, Beverley,
THOMAS ABBOTT - 26 APR 1854 Saint Mary And Saint Nicholas, Beverley,
(MI394=b.1855/d.2-Jan-1932)

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I have the parish record for the marriage between...
(112) Mary Abbott daughter of John Abbott (inn keeper) and
(22) Thomas Abbott (mariner) and father Jonathan Abbott (mariner)...
on 13-Oct-1849, which is why I think the father named in the baptism of Thomas (16-May-1823) is incorrect.

I hope this helps future researchers.

--Gary