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Can anybody please help in trying to find the birth reference for a Rachel Leyland born abt 1851 in Pennington, Lancashire, daughter of Henry and Margaret Leyland. I can't seem to find it registered. Thanks Nicola

have you tried several years either side of 1851?

Hi could it be Rachel layland 1852 4th quarter registration area Leigh as the registration office covering pennington is Wigan and Leigh

might be this spelling?? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Layland Rachel Leigh 8c 153

Just checking that one on the census and cannot find anyone corresponding to eliminate it. Gail.

Nicola this could be it because Leigh district covers Pennington.... Births Mar 1852 (>99%) Leyland Female Leigh 8c 144 Georgina.

1861. Name: Rachel Leyland Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Henry Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Pennington, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Pendleton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Household Members: Name Age Alice Caden 26 Elizabeth Leyland 9 Mo Henry Leyland 32 Jane Leyland 12 Kate Leyland 3 Margaret Leyland 40 Rachel Leyland 10 Thomas Leyland 19 Alice Caden abt 1835 Salford, Lancashire, England Boarder Pendleton Lancashire Elizabeth Leyland abt 1860 Pendleton, Lancashire, England Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Henry Leyland abt 1829 Kilshaw, Lancashire, England Head Pendleton Lancashire Jane Leyland abt 1849 Pennington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Kate Leyland abt 1858 Pendleton, Lancashire, England Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Margaret Leyland abt 1821 Westleigh, Lancashire, England Wife Pendleton Lancashire Rachel Leyland abt 1851 Pennington, Lancashire, England Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Thomas Leyland abt 1842 Pennington, Lancashire, England Son Pendleton Lancashire Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ............>Cleworth Margaret Leigh 8c 165 ..............>Leyland Henry Leigh 8c 165 SMITH Ellen Leigh 8c 165 Winard John Leigh 8c 165 1851. Looks like Thomas and Jane are Cleworth not Leyland. Name: Margaret Cleworth Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Mother's name: Catherine Gender: Female Where born: Westleigh, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pennington County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Leigh Sub-registration district: West Leigh ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Edward Bent 37 Sarah Bent 32 Catherine Cleworth 56 Elizabeth Cleworth 3 Hannah Cleworth 25 Jane Cleworth 2 John Cleworth 64 Joseph Cleworth 10 Margaret Cleworth 30 Mary Ann Cleworth 19 Thomas Cleworth 8 Edward Bent abt 1814 Pennington, Lancashire, England Son-in-law Pennington Lancashire Sarah Bent abt 1819 Westleigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Pennington Lancashire Catherine Cleworth abt 1795 Pennington, Lancashire, England Wife Pennington Lancashire Elizabeth Cleworth abt 1848 Pennington, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Pennington Lancashire Hannah Cleworth abt 1826 Westleigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Pennington Lancashire .........>Jane Cleworth abt 1849 Pennington, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Pennington Lancashire John Cleworth abt 1787 Besford, Lancashire, England Head Pennington Lancashire Joseph Cleworth abt 1841 Westleigh, Lancashire, England Son Pennington Lancashire ..........>Margaret Cleworth abt 1821 Westleigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Pennington Lancashire Mary Ann Cleworth abt 1832 Westleigh, Lancashire, England Daughter Pennington Lancashire ..........> Thomas Cleworth abt 1843 Pennington, Lancashire, England Grandson Pennington Lancashire 1851. Henry Leyland living with uncle, occ Blacksmith. Name: Henry Leyland Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Culcheth, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Culcheth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Leigh Sub-registration district: Lowton ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 96 Household Members: Name Age Alice Leyland 67 Henry Leyland 22 John Leyland 48 Peter Leyland 11 Rachael Leyland 15 William Leyland 13

wow, thank you Fiona, that explains why I was struggling to find a marriage before the children were born! I'll look into this a little further. Thanks Nicola