Genealogy Chat

I am finding it hard to trace Oram Bailey after 1901, he was born 1844 & lived with his grandmother Fances Bailey born 1781 they all lived in Dawley Shropshire I Cannot trace his grand mother & who she married or Oram Bailey`s parents or when he died he had six childern, Phyllis Bailey was my great grandmother she was born 1889 her mother was Selina Standish,Phyllis married Reginald Thomas from Wales,I send for the marriage ceft but can only find her on 1901 census when she was 12,the address I got for her was Gt Malvern Worcs she died in Norfolk 1957 0r 58 can anyone advise me Please.or is there any other site I can look? I heve been on Ancestry but it on got census up to 1901.some kind lady help me to get this far as she advised me to get marriage ceft.

Mary if you buy his birth certificate it will give his parents names... Births Sep 1844 (>99%) Bailey Oram Madeley 18 95 Georgina.

Oram's marriage, I presume............ >>>>>>>>Oram Bailey 1869 Oct-Nov-Dec Melton Mowbray Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire Edwin Barkby 1869 Oct-Nov-Dec Melton Mowbray Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire Sarah Ann Manton 1869 Oct-Nov-Dec Melton Mowbray Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire >>>>>>>>Selina Manton 1869 Oct-Nov-Dec Melton Mowbray Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7a Page: 554 Reg

1861.............so he had a brother............... Name: Oram Bailey Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Dawley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Dawley County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Registration district: Madeley Sub-registration district: Dawley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Bailey 28 b. Wellington Mathew A Bailey 26 b. Madeley Oram Bailey 16 Susanna E Bailey 5 William Gittins 14 Reg

Oram Bailey Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Selina Gender: Male Where born: Dawley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Great Malvern County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Cowly Rd No 5 Belvoir Terrace Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Bank Cashier Registration district: Upton On Severn Sub-registration district: Hanley Castle ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur C. Bailey 2 Bertram N. Bailey 9 Edwin O. Bailey 4 Harold F. Bailey 8 Kate C. Bailey 6 Oram Bailey 36 Selina Bailey 35 Emily S. Emery 16 Mary Ann Jones 21 View Original Record View original image

Judging by 1851, his grandmother's maiden name was Oram......... Reg

Gran's marriage............... FANNY ORAM Female Marriages: Spouse: JOHN BAILY Marriage: 23 APR 1802 Madeley, Shropshire, England Reg

1841.............. Anelia Bailey abt 1832 Shropshire, England Dawley Magna Shropshire Hanah Bailey abt 1806 Shropshire, England Dawley Magna Shropshire John Bailey abt 1806 Shropshire, England Dawley Magna Shropshire John Bailey abt 1826 Dawley Magna Shropshire Mather Henry Bailey abt 1834 Shropshire, England Dawley Magna Shropshire Wm Henry Bailey abt 1830 Shropshire, England Dawley Magna Shropshire Reg

1851................ Amelia Bailey abt 1832 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Great Dawley Shropshire Anna Bailey abt 1804 Benthall, Shropshire, England Wife Great Dawley Shropshire John Bailey abt 1803 Madeley, Shropshire, England Head Great Dawley Shropshire Matthew Hy Bailey abt 1835 Madeley, Shropshire, England Son Great Dawley Shropshire William Hy Bailey abt 1830 Benthall, Shropshire, England Son Great Dawley Shropshire POSSIBLE marriage of parents.............you'd need Oram's birth cert to confirm.......... JOHN BAILEY Male Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH WILKES Marriage: 24 NOV 1824 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Reg

Oram's father's baptism............ JOHN BAILEY Event(s): Birth: 02 FEB 1803 Christening: 18 AUG 1805 Madeley, Shropshire, England Parents: Father: JOHN BAILEY Mother: FANNY And he had a brother.......... 1. WM ORAM BAILEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 10 DEC 1815 Madeley, Shropshire, England Reg

I fear you are mistaken in thinking that Phyllis's mother's maiden name was Standish..........see the marriage above for Oram and Selina. Your misunderstanding has arisen from the mistranscription of 1901 census. I have checked the image.......here is the correct version............... Oram Bailey abt 1845 Sawley, Shropshire, England Head Malvern Link Worcestershire Selina Bailey abt 1846 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Wife Malvern Link Worcestershire Arthur Chas Bailey abt 1879 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Son Malvern Link Worcestershire Herbert G Bailey abt 1885 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Son Malvern Link Worcestershire Phyllis Bailey abt 1889 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Malvern Link Worcestershire Edward Thomas Fowles abt 1864 Herefordshire, England Son-in-law Malvern Link Worcestershire Kate Lina Fowles abt 1875 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Malvern Link Worcestershire Kathleen Rose Fowles abt 1900 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Granddaughter Malvern Link Worcestershire Reg

Son Arthur in 1891............. Arthur Challis Bailey abt 1879 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Nephew Clifton Yorkshire Struggling to find the rest of the family in 1891.......... Reg

More mistranscription..........1891 Oram Baily abt 1865 Dawley, Shropshire, England Head Leigh Worcestershire Selina Baily abt 1846 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Wife Leigh Worcestershire Bertram M Baily abt 1872 Worcester, Worcestershire, England Son Leigh Worcestershire Edwin O Baily abt 1877 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Son Leigh Worcestershire Harold F Baily abt 1873 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Son Leigh Worcestershire Hurbert G Baily abt 1885 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Son Leigh Worcestershire Kate L Baily abt 1875 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Leigh Worcestershire Phyliss Baily abt 1889 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Daughter Leigh Worcestershire Reg

Oram's wife in 1851.........note her sister Sarah Ann, whose marriage is on same page as Selina's Thomas Manton abt 1814 Haring, Northampton Head Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Ann Manton abt 1806 Market Overton, Rutland, England Wife Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Elizabeth Manton abt 1820 Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Sister Melton Mowbray Leicestershire George Manton abt 1841 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Son Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Rebecca Manton abt 1836 Edmondthorpe, Leicestershire, England Daughter Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Sarah Ann Manton abt 1839 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Daughter Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Selina Manton abt 1846 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Daughter Melton Mowbray Leicestershire AND.........1851 Thomas Manton abt 1814 Kittisford, Northamptonshire, England Head Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Ann Manton abt 1806 Market Overton, Rutland, England Wife Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Anne Manton abt 1839 Melton Mowbray Daughter Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Rebecca Manton abt 1837 Edmondthorpe, Leicestershire, England Daughter Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Selina Manton abt 1846 Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England Daughter Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Reg

Finally.............1841 Thomas Manton abt 1816 Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Ann Manton abt 1811 Melton Mowbray Leicestershire George Manton abt 1840 Leicestershire, England Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Rebecca Manton abt 1836 Leicestershire, England Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Sarah Manton abt 1839 Leicestershire, England Melton Mowbray Leicestershire Leaving this now....till there is some feedback......... Reg