Genealogy Chat

Can anyone offer any help on how to search the bmd by record number. I'm trying to find the wife of Francis G Waters married the first quarter of 1843. the record number for his marriage is showing as 4 251. I'm trying to look for his wife Ann, surname unknown, Many Thanks Danny

From freeBMD, it is Ann Wright. Waters Francis George Newington 4 251 Wright Ann Newington 4 251 Sam x

Francis George Waters Year of Registration: 1843 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Newington County: London Volume: 4 Page: 251 (click to see others on page) Ann Wright

Thanks for your help everyone, just found them!! I am having a nightmare trying to find a missing link in my family tree. My Great Grandfather was Henry James Waters who was married to Louisa M Grew on May 17 1891. I have their Marriage Cert. which states that Henry James Waters' Fathers name was Henry Waters (DEAD) but I cannot seem to find him anywhere. Anyone know where to start? Thanks again, Danny.

Have you got Henry in the census ? if you try tracing him back perhaps his father will turn up on a census. Something to go on. Germaine x

Hi Germaine No. I can't seem to find him anywhere. It seems that the family are from the Shoreditch, Clerkenwell area of London. Danny

Hi Danny I was loking at this one . Though the age is a couple of years out . Is it the right area. germaine x 1871 Henry J Waters Age: 7 months Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Mother's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Clerkenwell Civil parish: Ely Rents and Hatton Garden and Saffron Hill Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 348 Household Members: Name Age Henry J Waters 7 months Louisa Waters 9 Mary Waters 30 Mary A Waters 16

Does the certificate give an occupation for both Henrys ? What does it say? This might help to find the correct one in census records. In 1901, there is a 30 years old Francis WATERS a visitor at Henry's home. He, like Henry is shown with birthplace Camberwell. We may have to look back on his census records to find out how he fits in to the family. A cousin maybe? Sometimes you have to go right back, in order to go forwards. Gwyn

Looking for Henry Waters born around 1870 gives 3 in London, two of them in Newington, sons of Henry and Sarah Waters and Henry and Margaret Waters. The 1891 census, when Henry is working in Shoreditch, states birth place Colworth, but I would read this as 'Walworth'. Walworth, Newington, and Gwyn's Camberwell all suggest an origin south of the river. Gwyn's suggestion about family reconstruction sounds spot on. UPDATED Thanks Jim (your message below) - I take it back about the Shoreditch Henry. Yours is born in Clerkenwell.

Thanks for all your help guys.... I also found the connection of Henry James Waters living with Grandparents Francis and Ann. My problem is that with the Marriage Cert. of Henry James Waters it states that his Fathers name was Henry Waters (DEAD). However, looking through the census records for Francis and Ann it appears that they never had a son called Henry. How confused am I!!!! I also found the Marriage of Francis and Ann in 1843 stating that they were married in Newington? If this is of any help. Thanks Danny x