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Malcolm | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:31 |
Thanks Reg, Jeanette. I have ordered the birth cert for William Thomas Holbrook mailing date is Nov 29, so about Dec 7 to get to the USA, if it’s on time. Do you think I have the correct family? Malcolm |
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ErikaH | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:22 |
This is the IGI info about the one for whom you have the cert.........she had an elder sister...but not the same person as the one in 1861 census with her family Holbrook, British Isles Mother: Elizabeth Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C036391 1. MARY ANNE HOLBROOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 22 DEC 1859 Tirley, Gloucester, England 2. ELIZA HOLBROOK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 APR 1858 Tirley, Gloucester, England Reg |
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Jeanette | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:18 |
on the birth ref for William Thomas Holbrook looked on image its 6a very clear so not sure why they put c as well Jeanette |
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ErikaH | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:16 |
Mum in 1841? Eliza Trenfield abt 1826 Worcestershire, England Kempsey Worcestershire View Record Emma Trenfield abt 1832 Worcestershire, England Kempsey Worcestershire View Record Frances Trenfield abt 1806 Worcestershire, England Kempsey Worcestershire View Record John Trenfield abt 1806 Worcestershire, England Kempsey Worcestershire View Record John Trenfield abt 1835 Worcestershire, England Kempsey Worcestershire View Record Mary Trenfield abt 1829 Worcestershire, England Kempsey Worcestershire Reg |
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ErikaH | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:14 |
Might this be the marriage of her parents? Thomas Averill 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire View Record James Bull 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire View Record Harriet Clarke 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire View Record William Landy Green 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire View Record William Tandy Green 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire >>>>>>>>>> Thomas Holbrook 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire View Record Esther Linton 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire View Record Emma Purser 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire >>>>>>>>> Eliza Trenfield 1846 Oct-Nov-Dec Upton Upon Severn Worcestershire Son's birth cert will confirm mother's maiden name Reg |
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ErikaH | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:06 |
Well, they seem to have registered the son...... Name: William Thomas Holbrook Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Tewkesbury County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6[ac] Page: 393 This is likely to be the father's death Name: Thomas Holbrook Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Year of Registration: 1870 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 55 DISTRICT: Upton Upon Severn County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 181 Reg |
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ErikaH | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:04 |
Is this the family in 1861? Just for ref......... Name: Mary Ann N Holbrook Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Leigh, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Chaceley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Tewkesbury Sub-registration district: Deerhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Holbrook 34 Ellan Holbrook 11 Emma Holbrook 13 Jane Holbrook 8 Mary Ann N Holbrook 3 Thomas Holbrook 46 William T Holbrook 6 Mo Reg |
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ErikaH | Report | 22 Nov 2006 23:02 |
Bear in mind that the birth may not have been registered.........it wasn't compulsory until 1875. As for her age........I reckon that given by her parents is the most likely to be accurate; especially that given by her mother, who, after all, was there at the time!!..lol . Reg |
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Malcolm | Report | 22 Nov 2006 22:52 |
She married my Great-Grandfather Elijah Simper on 2 Sept. 1883, her age was 24 dob Abt1859 and father Thomas Holbrook (deceased). On the 1901 Census her age is given as 38 abt1863, born Apperley Gloucestershire. On the 1891 Census her age is given as 30 abt1861, born Apperley Gloucestershire. I cannot find her on the 1881 Census. On the 1871 Census her age is given as 12 abt1859, born Leigh Gloucestershire, Mother Eliza Holbrook a widow. On the 1861 Census her age is given as 3 abt1858, born Leigh Gloucestershire, Mother Eliza, Father Thomas Holbrook. Both Apperley and Leigh come under the registration of Tewkesbury sub-registration district Deerhurst. So I ordered a birth certificate for Mary Ann Holbrook born 1859 and registered in Tewkesbury. Last week I received the certificate for Mary Ann born in Tirley sub registration Deerhurst. There is no Fathers name on the certificate and Mothers name is Elizabeth Holbrook. Now I’m not sure I have the correct certificate as the 1861 Census shows Mary Ann having two older Sisters. I have been using the marriage date assuming it to be the most accurate, now I’m not sure. Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. Malcolm |
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Malcolm | Report | 22 Nov 2006 22:51 |
I am trying to find my Great-Grandmother Mary Ann Holbrook see below. |