Genealogy Chat

thanks so much for your time and patience Keith-I really didnt know where to look next! Hope people are as helpful to you in your search as you have been to me! best wishes Sharon

Hi Sharon, As Johns birth was pre 1837 and there were no birth certificates then, the only record you are likely to find is the record of his baptism in the parish registers or possibly on the IGI, as I mentioned before. Some parish registers are available to view online, but by no means all. If you wish to proceed, I suggest obtaining the marriage certificate to get the right age for John, then it starts to get expensive if you are not in Worcestershire. The parish records for Cradley are held in the Worcestershire Archives, see this site :- http://worcestershire.whub.org.uk/home/wcc-records-family-history The majority of people travel to the appropriate records office to view the registers on micro-fiche as a dayout or a break for a few days. If you are unable to travel to the Archives, check the Family History Society for Worcestershire, they may hold transcriptions of the registers that you can purchase. As well as baptisms, you can of course search for marriages and burials (not deaths). Pre 1837 people tend to record dates of baptism as birth dates are only on very few records if the vicar kind enough to record it as this was not required. Hope this helps Keith

bless you Keith! and for your p.m's.... my internet connection wouldnt work....again.... I'd looked at that, but misread Johns as 257, not 254. also on their sons birth cert its spelt Ann-but as she couldn't write, I should have realised! If your not sick of this yet...could you advise me of my next step, as his birth will be c1825 and I gather from you I have to look at parish records, which i've never done. Can you explain what I need to do to find john's birth or his birth cert? Whatever, thank you very much Keith Sharon

UPDATE Just found it looking for ANNE Turner. Q2 1854 Turner ANNE, Stourbridge 6c 254 Moore John, Stourbridge 6c 254

no I cant find a marriage either Keith....good to know i havent just missed it..................thanks for trying for me. Sharon

Sorry Sharon, cannot see a likely marriage in Stourbridge registration district between 1853-1855 in the full images. Keith

Thanks esta-didnt realise! always replied the other way before. i'm I.T. thick and dont understand pm's & nudges!

That's them keith...or should i just call you Sherlock!

Is this them in 1871? Name: John Moore Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Cradley, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Cradley Ecclesiastical parish: Cradley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Halesowen ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Albert H Moore 8 Ann Moore 43 Ann R Moore 2 months Chalres Moore 16 Clara A E Moore 10 Harriet E Moore 2 Harry Moore 6 John Moore 44 John H Moore 4 Thomas Moore 13

Sharon have replied to your PM and have added your info here so others can help aswell. they were living at High st cradley children were Charles 1855, Thomas1858, clara 1861,Albert 1863, Harry 1865 John Henry 1867 harriet Emily 1869 Ann R 1871 a local website has the family on the 1861 census up to clara living at 151 new street, halesowen, Stourbridge Worcs (now West midlands) Clara was un named and 1 day old when info collected. parents were 32 and 31 years old. Sharon You really need to keep all the information on the one thread as it makes it lot easier for people to help. Sending PM's just makes things a little harder as the more people that can help the better. Esta

Hi Sharon, Pre 1837 you will not find a birth certificate, registration did not start until then. You will have to go to parish records to find information on baptisms, marriages and burials pre 1837 or the IGI. I would caution use of the IGI as some information is incorrect and needs to be confirmed against the parish records. Keith

Sharon ' John Henry, married to Ann Turner, both born c 1828 ' You wont find a BC for him as he was born before 1837. As for a possible marriage do you have any idea of when ?(.Did they have children ?...if so when was the oldest born ?) Esta

HELP! aren't there a lot of John Moore's?-& I have more than my share! Thanks to you lovely people, I found grandad-John Henry 1891 Cradley,Worcs, then his dad John Henry 1867 Cradley Worcs, & his parents.you guessed it... John Henry, married to Ann Turner, both born c 1828. What I Cant Find are the latter's marriage cert, and his birth cert! Anyone out there help? many thanks..again Sharon