Genealogy Chat

I, too, have just had a good search of 1871 with no luck. Sorry! All I can say, Donald, is that I'm glad it's not my tree, it's a confusing one. There are just too many James Whitworths in the Rochdale area. Good luck, Margaret

Thanks Gail for all your help. I don't know if they had moved to oz. He had two sisters that moved to OZ shortly there after. His one sister is listed in the 1871 census and he is not. A distant cousin who lives in Oz is not aware of this as he gave me the information from Roger. His sister Susannah should also be listed. I would have presumed that he would have taken over the store. Maybe some luck someone can connect this.

Hi Donald Just to let you know I have searched and cannot find them on the 1871 - maybe someone else will have more luck. Regards Gail.

Require a search for James Wrigley and Sarah Whitworth possible child Mary Wrigley Whitworth in the 1871 Census. Rochdale area

Elizabeth married Whitehead and was living next door to her Parents. Her younger sister Eliza was living with her in the 1871 Census. This is when James Sr. is not recorderd in the census. I did not locte anything on BMD for Rochdale. There are alot of James so I cannot narrow that one down, but I do have some reords of possibilities. I don't have access to the 1871 Census to find James and Sarah. If the child is theirs , it should be recorded in the 1871 Census. Should I post for a search be done on James Wrigley Whitworth And Sarah Whitworth in the 1871 Census

I think sister Elizabeth is the one who married a Whitehead, as they are above them on the 1861 census and sister Eliza is visiting them on the 1871 census - still tracking the family and it has not led me to James and Sarah yet. Regards Gail

I have no clue as to any of James family unless we find him in the 1871 Census.

could this be a daughter??? Births Sep 1870 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whitworth Mary Wrigley Rochdale 8e 73

1861 just for reference and to show details for Sarah Name: Eliza Whitworth Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Gender: Female Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Wardleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Butterworth 24 - Rochdale Eliza Whitworth 11 James Whitworth 54 Susannah Whitworth 24 Thos P Whitworth 21 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3044; Folio: 88; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543069. Maureen

I have found the record of his mother on the BMD Deaths Dec 1856 ________________________________________ Whitworth Marianne Rochdale 8e 34 Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1856 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference WHITWORTH Marianne 49 Wardleworth Rochdale W/14/69 Her husband is listed in the 1861 Census James Sr. If the BMD is correct then the family should be listed in the 1871 Census.

This death matches his birth year: Name: James Whitworth Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 43 DISTRICT: Rochdale County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 2 Rose

Where is Mary Ann the mother on the 1861 because she is not with husband James, but I think it says he is married not widowed? Regards Gail

The information that you have posted I have already seen. The person who listed this is a distant relative,he obtain the information from Roger Whitworth on a one name study. I cannot confirm the information as no record shows a James W Whitworth on the BMD (death ) taken place in Rochdale at the age of 39. He was given information that James married a Whitehead but the BMD does list Sarah and she was living with his father in 1861 Census. This is all the information I have on him. His parents are listed as I mentioned in the 1841 1851 and 1861 Census. He may be a witness as to when his father passed on but I cannot narrow down that time. Since I don't have access to the Parish records in Rochdale I cannot search the records to confirm. I was trying to piece why I cannot find him in the 1861 Census since he got married a few years after the Census.

It also might be worthwhile sending for that marriage certificate, to see if parents etc match up. Regards Gail Update - I cannot see a James (Wrigley) Whitworth death registered in the first quarter 1869, but that is not conclusive by any means.

Donald, there's a tree on Rootsweb that has a James Wrigley Whitworth, baptised 19 Oct.1834, Rochdale, Lancashire and died 13 Jan.1869, West House Greaze, Rochdale, Lancashire. It says the parents are James Whitworth and Mary Ann Place but it also says that James Wrigley married an unknown Whitehead abt.1854. Might be worth contacting the tree owner. Margaret

Just putting the 1851 for reference purposes James Wrigly Whitworth Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's name: James Mother's name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Wardleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Rope Street Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 171 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Whitworth 18 Eliza O Whitworth 1 James Whitworth 44 Provision and Fruit Dealer? James Wrigly Whitworth 16 Mary Ann Whitworth 43 Born Bedale Yorkshire Susanna Whitworth 14 Thomas Place Whitworth 11 Every one else born Rochdale Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2246; Folio: 144A; Page: 50; GSU roll: 87266-87267. Regards Gail

THE INFORMATION I HAVE ON JAMES WRIGLEY IS : BORN IN ROCHDALE WARDLEWORTH IN 1835 FOUND IN 1841 CENSUS LIVING ON ROPE ST. WARDLEWORTH. AGE 6. LIVING SAME LOCATION AND AREA LISTED FULL NAME IN 1851 CENSUS AGE 16. THE 1861 CENSUS CANNOT LOCATE HIM. FATHER AND FAMILY LISTED LIVING REDCROSS ST IN WARLEWORTH ROCHDALE. HIS WIFE TO BE IS LISTED IN THE 1861 CENSUS AT HIS FATHER RESIDENCE HER NAME IS SARAH BUTTERWORTH. THE LANCASHIRE BMD LIST THEIR MARRIAGE TAKEN PLACE IN 1864 ROCHDALE REFERENCE RM/17/38. I CANNOT FIND ANY MORE RECORDS ON JAMES WRIGLEY. ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. I DID TRY AND SEARCH FOR SARAH WHITWORTH IN THE 1871 CENSUS BUT CAME UP SHORT.