Genealogy Chat

Helen how did ya get all that!!!!!!!!!!!! lol ur a genius too xxxxxxxxxx pls can I come live with you lol. So do ya reckon my hunch is right that he just put that his dads name was Enoch like I thought (so it didnt look bad in church when he married?) the only other thing tho is that is said Enoch snr was a miller and it says that Sarahs dad was also a miller was Enoch fibbing do ya reckon (wouldnt be the 1st time my rellies have fibbed about things lol) Luv Angie xxxx

If you look on the IGI batch C058751 (covers 1813-1852) that Enoch's baptism is on, you'll see that the Linacre women were all at it! John & Elizabeth Linacre had 9 children 1815-1832 (just to prove the vicar was recording mother AND father's names) Thomas & Sarah had Mary 1825 Ann Linacre had 6 illegitimate children 1820-1832! Rebecca had Abraham 1837 Hannah had Elizabeth 1817 Elizabeth had Thomas 1819 and George 1822 Frances had Enoch 1817 I'm guessing at least some of the other Linacre woman were Frances' sisters???

Richard I just want to say you are an amazingly clever tallented star and I thank u with all my heart xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Richard was right lol Sarah Hodgkinson was Enochs bride woohoo. Now I have another spanner in this little tale (think they did this on purpose lol knowing a nosey granddaughter was gonna start digging lol) When Enoch was christened in Aug 1817 at Northwingfield, no fathers name was there only the mothers of Frances So I presumed that fathers name was either not known or Enoch was illegitimate (i know putting 2 + 2 together and getting 22 lol) I collected the marriage cert and it says the fathers name was Enoch Lineker occu Miller. So 1 is that really his dad? 2 if it is why was his name not put on the christening records? 3 do you think he was fibbing about Enoch Lineker being his dad? 4 why would he do that if so? 5 screammmmmmmmm I cant find another Enoch Lineker from Northwingfield to be the father i want to laugh jump up in the air with joy at the cert then cry with frustration at this cert throwing more Q's with no apparent answers back at me. Thank u everyone for all your help youve all been amazing again and I thank ya all from the bottom of my heart Luv Angie xxxxxxxxx

Great detective work Richard. I must remember that in the future Diane

Thank you Richard your a star xxxxx

Angela Her name is Sarah Hodgkinson !!! I took a punt that the Mary Hogkinson on the 1851 might be a relative, so looked up Hodgkinson on the complete images (Hodgkinson is not yet transcribed on FreeBMD for that quarter). And yes, there is a Sarah Hodgkinson with the same volume/page number as Enoch's marriage. Cheers Richard

Hi sorry bout the delay xxxx Yep thats my Arthurs birth and im awake look again all night cus im collecting enoch's wedding cert in the morn at 10am god im so excited. I am soooooooooo hoping your right that Sarah is his wife and that it hasnt been transcribed yet :)))))))) fingers crossed ill let ya know in the morn xxxx thank u all for looking for me I really appreciate it xxxxxxxxx

Would this be Arthurs birth? Might be an idea to get his birth certificate, will give mothers name so you can be sure any marriage certificate you get is the right one. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1846 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lineker Arthur Nottingham 15 599

Freebmd is showing only three brides and three grooms on that page, generally there would be four marriages to each page and there are two from the page not transcribed yet - may not be a matching couple that is missing. Freemd is being transcribed from the indexes and may be Sarah's page has not been done yet. If you request Enoch's marriage certificate with the stipulation wife, Sarah, they will only send it if it matches. It's an unusual name and there's not likely to be a vast number of Enoch Linekers getting married.

This is him with wife and my great granddad Arthur on the 1851 census Name: Enoch Lineker Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: North Wingfield, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Sherwood ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 155 Household Members: Name Age Mary Hodgkinson 17 Arthur Lineker 4 Charles Lineker 8 Mo Eliza Lineker 2 Enoch Lineker 35 Sarah Lineker 40

Hi Sam xx His name was Enoch Lineker/ Linacre/liniker/linncar/ (spelt god knows how many ways throough the census's but def def 100% sure same Enoch) born Northwingfield Derbyshire in 1817 married dec 1845 in Nottingham died dec 1880 in Nottingham (the family moved to Nottm from derbyshire) ive found him on all census's except 1841 eek (just rechecked and havnt got him and cant find him on that one but have the rest)

You don't say what Enoch's surname is but if it is relatively common, maybe you have the wrong person? What year is the marriage cert you have found? If it is from before the 1841 census, maybe that wife died and he married Sarah. Sam x

I have followed my Enoch from birth through the census when he was 25 in the 1841 census right through to when he died (cant get birth cert as pre 1837) whats confusing me is that its saying on all the census's that his wife is Sarah. I have found a marriage cert and went to the register office today to order it (collect it in the morn) but I cant find him marrying a Sarah anwhere. There are 3 possible ladies he could have married but none of them are called sarah so why? I know I should be waiting to see what the marriage cert says tom........ but it kept me awake all night trying to figure it out and is gonna keep me awake tonight too boohoo. any ideas why anyone?