Genealogy Chat

Thank you all very much for your help. I will go and search for the certificates. Sylvia xxxx

Sylvia I agree that the birth cert is the best way to go. I found a Daniel and Martha Herbert on the 1841 and they were not living in Chelsea, so I doubt if that is the marriage after all. Best of luck with the cert. Maggie

Perhaps try parish records for the children to find out the father's name, that would tell you if the 1814 marriage is your Martha? This would then aid you in finding out when he died.

If the family found above in 1841 is the right family, then there is a daughter Emma, born c.1838. This could mean anytime between June qtr. of 1837 and March qtr. of 1838. If it happened to be after the start of registration in July 1837 and her birth WAS registered, then her birth certificate would give you her father's full name. Kath. x

As they are still in Chelsea, Smith Street is it worth seeing if there is a death ( of a Daniel ) perhaps, he must have died within a three to four year period - after Emma and before the 1841 census. Regards Gail

Hi Maggie, Yes I believe that Martha got married round about 1815 but I don't know who to ? Sylvia

Whoops, looks as if I was looking up the wrong person. There is a Martha Humphreis married a Daniel Herbert St Giles Cripplegate 1814.

Hi Kathleen, Martha Herbert is her married name I have tried to work it out and I believe she got married about 1814/1815 and I believe that my ggg grandad was alive in 1833 & 1836 because of another 2 children born then ? Sylvia

From what Gail found on the 1841 she may not have been married in 1833, is that possible? How do you know that is when she married? Could it have been later? Ancestry has Pallotts Marriage Index 1780-1837 and you can often find what you are looking for there. I found a number of Martha Herberts but only one in Chelsea and that was in 1815. The only Martha Herbert in 1833 was in Spitalfields. Rgds Maggie

Hi Charles & Gail, thank you very much for the information, I do have this for 1841, I need it to be earlier ? Sylvia

Was Martha Herbert her married or maiden name? Was she single or married in 1833? Kath. x

Sylvia I had a look at the 1841 census and tis is what I got ..... Benjamin Herbert abt 1818 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Charles Herbert abt 1833 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Emma Herbert abt 1838 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) George Herbert abt 1824 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Henry Herbert abt 1827 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) John Herbert abt 1830 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Martha Herbert abt 1794 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Robert Herbert abt 1815 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex I did check the image and it was Smith St. Is 1841 too late?

does not look like husband is there unfortunately. 1841 census Smith Street Chelsea Martha Herbert Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Chelsea Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: View Image Source information: HO107/687/8 Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Chelsea North East ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 52 Page: 34 (click to see others on page) Line number: 24 GSU Number: 438803 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Civil Parish: Chelsea; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 11; Page: 34; Line: 24; GSU roll: 438803. Benjamin Herbert abt 1818 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Charles Herbert abt 1833 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Emma Herbert abt 1838 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) George Herbert abt 1824 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Henry Herbert abt 1827 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) John Herbert abt 1830 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Martha Herbert abt 1794 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Robert Herbert abt 1815 Middlesex, England Chelsea Middlesex (Middlesex) Regards Gail

Hi Maggie, no I have not looked on ancestry because at the moment I am having trouble getting onto it, would they go back that far ? Sylvia

Have you looked on Ancestry?

I am trying to find out who my ggg grandmother married. Martha Herbert In 1833 lived at 5,Smith Street Chelsea, Chelsea, North West, is there anyway this address could be looked up for 1833 and see who my ggg grandfather was ? Sylvia