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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 16:44 |
Trying to find information of where my great grandparents address / lived once they got married, they married in 1859, John Herbert & Elizabeth Renton, any ideas of where I could search for this, as I have tried different sites and seem to get nowhere, Sylvia |
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KathleenBell | Report | 21 Oct 2006 16:47 |
Have you found them in the 1861 census? Although they might have had a few addresses between getting married in 1859 and the 1861 census. What area did they live? Kath. x |
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Unknown | Report | 21 Oct 2006 16:52 |
Where was their marriage registered? Have you found children's birth registrations? Do you have any census info at all? |
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Unknown | Report | 21 Oct 2006 16:54 |
I see they married in Shoreditch Elizabeth Renton Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 418 ( John Herbert) so the thing is to check 1861 census as nearest to the marriage. |
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Unknown | Report | 21 Oct 2006 16:56 |
4 John Herberts with wives called Elizabeth, living in Middlesex in 1861: John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1815 Uxbridge, Middlesex, Head Hampstead Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1795 Islington, Middlesex,Head Islington Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1788 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Head St Pancras Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1839 Pancras, Middlesex, Head St Pancras Middlesex I'd guess that the Pancras one born abt 1839 is likeliest to be yours. |
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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 16:56 |
Hello Kathleen, No I have not been able to look on the 1861 census, it will not allow me, they came from the london area, they got married in Shoreditch St John The Baptist. Sylvia xx |
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KathleenBell | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:04 |
There are all these John Herberts, with wife Elizabeth, in the Middlesex area in 1861:- John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1815 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Head Hampstead Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1795 Islington, Middlesex, England Head Islington Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1788 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Head St Pancras Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1839 Pancras, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras Middlesex John Herbert Elizabeth abt 1824 Bermondsey Head Bermondsey Surrey You don't say when he was born, so not sure if any of these could be him. Kath. x |
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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:05 |
Hello Helen, Thank you for the information, I will try again and see if I can get onto the 1861 census, Sylvia xx |
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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:09 |
Hi Kathleen, John Herbert was born in 1830 @ st lukes, Sylvia |
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Unknown | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:14 |
The only John Herbert born 1830 St Lukes in the 1861 index is John Herbert Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Southwark St John Horsleydown and he is unmarried. Are you sure that the chap you have born 1830 St Lukes is the same one who married in Shoreditch in 1859? |
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Unknown | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:18 |
Is this your couple in 1881: Street address: 2 Cottage Pl Boreham St Civil Parish: Hackney Jno. Herbert Age: 51 abt 1830 Head born: St Lukes, Middlesex Tailors Sheer Cutter Maker Elizth. Herbert 43 abt 1838 born: St Lukes, Middlesex Arthur W. Herbert 11 serv. b. New Southgate Florence Herbert 8 b Hackney Jesse Herbert 3 b Hackney [not sure this is her name, image hard to read] Ernest E. Herbert 3 months b Hackney Assuming this is them, we should be able to find them 1871 looking for Arthur, but if they married 1959 they presumably had children before him??? |
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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:21 |
Hello Helen, Yes I am sure it is the same one, I have found some of the details listed for him as John G Herbert ? , Sylvia |
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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:24 |
Hello Helen, Thank you very much for all your help, yes this looks like it. Sylvia xx |
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Unknown | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:27 |
1871 Arthur W Herbert Age: 1 abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Elizabeth Where born: Friern Barnet (Barnet Friern), Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Friern Barnet Town: Colney Hatch Registration district: Barnet Sub-registration district: Finchley 2 Southgate Avenue Household Members: Name Age John Herbert 40 scissors maker: smith b Mdx St Luke Elizabeth Herbert 35 needlewoman b Mdx St Luke Emma Herbert 12 servant girl b Mdx St Luke Elizabeth Herbert 12 [image says 10!] scholar b Shoreditch Harriet Herbert 6 scholar b Shoreditch Sarah C Herbert 4 b Friern Barnet Arthur W Herbert 1 Incidentally, 'New Southgate' given as Arthur's birthplace in 1881 was invented as 'Colney Hatch' gained notoriety because of the lunatic asylum there. |
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*s.* | Report | 21 Oct 2006 17:45 |
Hi Helen, Thank you very much for all the information, that's a great help. Kind Regards, Sylvia |