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And this could be John Crooks - right sort of age, right sort of place - and 'wife' and children whose ages would fit in with the 'all change/find a new partner' scenario. Victoria John C Crooks Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Cecelia Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Mile End Old Town, London, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon Zelotes County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green, East ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 72 Household Members: Name Age Cecelia Crooks 23 Eliza Crooks 63 James Crooks 5 John C Crooks 30 John C Crooks 2

Well, it looks as though they did - not in haste, but with due thought, reverence etc etc Caroline Crooks 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Gleed Orsett Essex View Record Edward Gleed 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Crooks Orsett Essex Victoria

This looks like your Caroline in - 1891 Name: Caroline Shepherd Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Limehouse, London, England Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriels County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Caroline Shepherd 14 Elizabeth Shepherd 8 Emily Shepherd 3 Mary A Shepherd 47 William Shepherd 59 Victoria

I think that Rose is onto something!! But it seems that Caroline didn't marry Edward until 1915: Marriages Sep 1915 Crooks Caroline Gleed Orsett 4a 1705 Gleed Edward Crooks Orsett 4a 1705 So presumably Edward & Caroline were ''living in sin'' at the time of the 1901 census? (maybe John Crooks was still around at the time!!) Richard

Perhaps Caroline was married before: Marriages Jun 1895 Brown Agnes Mary Poplar 1c 1017 Crooks John Poplar 1c 1017 Shepherd Caroline Poplar 1c 1017 Stuart Lewis Poplar 1c 1017 Agnes married Lewis Stuart but I can't find John and Caroline in 1901. Rose

yes thats the family and like i said yhe mothers maiden name was shepherd but i can't find marriage

For reference The family on 1901 Name: Caroline Gleed Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Edward Gender: Female Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Limehouse Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Gleed 24 <<<<<Poplar Edward Gleed 23 <<<limehouse Edward Gleed 11 months <<<Bromley Mary Ann Gleed 51 <<<<<Poplar Sarah Ann Gleed 2 <<<born Bromley

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Where have you looked for the marriage? Reg

i can't find the marriage of my gggrandparents edward gleed and caroline shepherd i have them in 1901aged23 and 24 respectively and they had two children one aged2 the other less than a year.i know the mothers name from my ggrandmothers birth certificate. i'm now out of ideas.without the marriage cert i'll find it difficult to confirm anything before it. anyone any ideas?