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when born if 3 in 1841?

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Carole

Carole Report 12 Oct 2006 20:23

ok, im having a dippy half hour. im after getting elizabeth kay c1838 birth cert (she was my gt gt grandads sister) as i need to find out their parents details. i have john kayc1804 and he married mary c1809. cant find a marriage and or baptism for john. someone very kndly offered to look at wirrel records last week but couldnt even find them there. elizabeth was put down as 3 years old on the 1841 census. as theres around 7-8 with the same name born around the same place i need to try and narrow it down by the quarters. what would be her probable birth date range? i cant get isaacs cert as he went and got himslf flippin born in 1835 before the records started!!! cheers carolexx

BobClayton

BobClayton Report 12 Oct 2006 20:40

Eleanor you would be right for any other census but the 1841 was taken on June 6th ! Bob :)))

Janet in Yorkshire

Janet in Yorkshire Report 12 Oct 2006 20:42

Bear in mind that civil reg only began on 1 July 1837, and not everyone complied in the early years. (only actually became compulsary in the 1870's) Hope you're lucky Jay

Carole

Carole Report 12 Oct 2006 20:42

?????? help!! lol

Carole

Carole Report 12 Oct 2006 20:50

this is the family in 1841. im primarily trying to find john and marys marriage and johns baptism as i want to find his parents. Record Elizabeth Kay abt 1838 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire View Record Isaac Kay abt 1835 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire View Record John Kay abt 1804 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire View Record John Kay abt 1827 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire View Record Mary Kay abt 1806 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire View Record Thomas Kay abt 1829 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire View Record William Kay abt 1832 Cheshire, England Wallasey Cheshire thanx carolexx

Carole

Carole Report 12 Oct 2006 22:04

yes, ive confirmed with certs that it is the right family. i need now to find john and marys marriage cert or one of the childrens birth certs to get marys maiden name. i also want to try to find johns details in parish records so i can maybe get his parents details, carolexxx

Suzy

Suzy Report 12 Oct 2006 22:23

Hi Carole Just to add my bit. I think Elizabeth was born between July 1837 and June 1838, so the range of quarters would be Q3 1837 and Q3 1838. How many Elizabeth's fall in these 5 quarters? Remember, when ordering certificates, you can use Father's and Mother's names as checking references. Suzy

Suzy

Suzy Report 12 Oct 2006 22:35

These are the 5 likely quarters from FreeBMD: Births Sep 1837 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kay Elizabeth Bolton 21 76 Kay Elizabeth Burgess Salford 20 411 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1837 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KAY Elizabeth Emma Leeds 23 343 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1838 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kay Elizabeth Kidderminster 18 341 Kay Elizabeth Keighley 23 234 Kay Elizabeth Hannah Leeds 23 353 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1838 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kay Elizabeth Manchester 20 574 Kay Elizabeth Bolton 21 191 Kay Elizabeth Bury 21 313 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1838 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KAY Elizabeth Chorlton 20 204 KAY Elizabeth Tadcaster 23 573 KAY Elizabeth Bury 21 257 KAY Elizabeth Bolton 21 80 I have deleted the ones I know aren't in Cheshire. Perhaps someone who knows the area better can eliminate some further. If you can get down to two or three possibles, it may be worth your while ordering the certificates and use the checking reference facility. Suzy

Carole

Carole Report 12 Oct 2006 23:09

thanx for that suzy. i have actually ordered one from sept 1838 wirral but the surname is spelt kaye. mind you in some census the family are down as key! ive also asked for ref check against fathers name, john kay. thank you carolexx

Lancashire_Lady

Lancashire_Lady Report 13 Oct 2006 12:28

Robert, you said that the 1841 census was taken on 6 June which has helped me work out a few birth years - thanks. Do you have dates for any other census years please? Thanks Anne

Judith

Judith Report 13 Oct 2006 12:35

Dates of censuses: 1841 night of 6th/7th June 1851 30th/31st March 1861 7th/8th April 1871 2nd/3rd April 1881 3rd/4th April 1891 5th/6th April 1901 31st March/1st April

Lancashire_Lady

Lancashire_Lady Report 13 Oct 2006 12:47

Judith - what can I say? Wow? Thank you so much for the information. I know there are a lot of moans about this site, but one thing that cannot be beaten is the way help is given so freely. Thnak you again Anne