Genealogy Chat

many thanks brenda in work at mo so will check everything when i get home bacardi xxxxxxxxxxxx

and the plot thickens found mary grimley working as school mistress in winston green prison on 1881 census also found maria grimley in 1881 and she has an aunt named rebecca benton born 1817 also another sister fransis grimley born 1852 bacardi xxxxx

well it didnt take him long to get hitched again many thanks bacardi xxxx

thanks again every one imagine leaving all his kids and going off and marrying some one else so if he is brother in law they are rebeccas sisters on 1901 bacardi xxxx

1901 master brass founder same as Arthur could this be him and left children to be with new wife? Arthur Benton Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Brother-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Kings Norton Ecclesiastical parish: Moseley St Mary County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Benton 58 Rebecca Benton 58 Maria B Grimley 54 Mary Grimley 63 Arthur Benton abt 1843 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Brother-in-law Kings Norton Worcestershire View Record Rebecca Benton abt 1843 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Sister-in-law Kings Norton Worcestershire Maria B Grimley abt 1847 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Kings Norton Worcestershire View Record Mary Grimley abt 1838 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Sister Kings Norton Worcestershire trouble seems to far away

thanks brenda,that may explaine a lot bacardi xxxxx

marriage Arthur Benton Year of Registration: 1865 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Sheffield County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 489 (click to see others on page) Sarah Ellen Hill

thanks you janette for putting the details up going to see if i can see parents death bacardi xxxxxx

many thanks to you all for taking the time to help so ancestry have made a boo boo and thanks for sarahs maiden name,was trying to find if she was a widdows before marriage thats that sorted then ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))) bacardi xxxxxxx

So thats the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census information you have now. Betty

1891 Bertha Bessie Benton Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Arthur Mother's name: Sarah Ellen Gender: Female Where Born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Heeley Ecclesiastical parish: Heeley Town: Heeley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 76 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Benton 47 Arthur Benton 20 Bertha Bessie Benton 11 Jane Ellen Benton 24 Jessia Payne Benton 14 John Edwin James Benton 2 Kate Mary Ann Benton 23 Lizzie Maud Benton 16 Margaret Matilda Benton 6 Mary Angelina Benton 8 Sarah Ellen Benton 45 Sarah Helen Lucy Benton 18 Thomas Benton 21 William Sheldon Benton 12 Ann Mary Ann Sheldon 72 Laura Stringer 20 1901 Bertha B Benton Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Robert H Mother's name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Heeley Ecclesiastical parish: Heeley Christchurch Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 86 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Benton 30 Bertha B Benton 21 Jane E Benton 33 Jessica P Benton 24 John E J Benton 12 Lizzie M Benton 26 Margaret M Benton 16 Mary A Benton 18 Wm S Benton 22 Emma Contins 24 servant Elsie E Widdows 8 Emily Widdows 23 Henry C Widdows 20 Herbert Widdows 13 Mary Widdows 15 Mary A Widdows 51 Robert H Widdows 61 very wierd Widdows in 183 Bentons in 185 servant at bottem of widdow family then the Bentons after its as though parents missed off or parents only recently died and they have taken them in

Hi Bacardi Just had a look at the image, and there are a couple of points to note. 1. the \\ marks of the census taker are clearly between the Widdows and Benton names. 2. They are down as living at 2 separate addresses the Widdows at 183 Shirebrook Road the Bentons next door @ 185. This doesnt explain why Jane E Benton is down as Daughter though ???? However Robert Widdows occupation is 'Minister Free Church of England' - maybe he just took them all in ? HTH .. Paul

OK so Arthur Benton married Sarah Ellen Hill 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Sheffield Did Sarah Ellen have any Sisters ? Nope looks like Robert Widdows married Mary Ann Platt 1871 Jul-Aug-Sep Oldham

Household: 1881 census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Arthur BENTON Head M Male 37 Birmh, Warwick, England Germn Silver & Brass Founder (Electro) Sarah E. BENTON Wife M Female 35 Tideswell, Derby, England Jane E. BENTON Dau U Female 14 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Kate M. A. BENTON Dau U Female 13 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Thomas BENTON Son U Male 11 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Arthur BENTON Son U Male 10 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Sarah E. L. BENTON Dau U Female 8 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Lizzie M. BENTON Dau U Female 6 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Jessica P. BENTON Dau U Female 4 Sheffield, York, England Scholar William S. BENTON Son U Male 2 Sheffield, York, England Scholar Bertha B. BENTON Dau U Female 1 Sheffield, York, England Eliza GREGORY Aunt W Female 66 Tideswell, Derby, England Housekeeper (Dom) Ann M. A. SHELDON Aunt U Female 62 Tideswell, Derby, England Housekeeper (Dom)

just make it easier to read 1881 Sarah E Benton married to Arthur Benton children are Jane E Kate M E Thomas Arthur Sarah E L Lizzie M Jessica P William S Bertha B Mary A all children born sheffield,father born 1843 in b,ham mother born in derby in 1836 in 1901 all these children are living with robert widdows and mary a widdows both born lancashire,all the children are down as there children plus 7 children with the surname widdows also have 1881 for robert and mary widdows,with several of there children so its not a mother or father re-marrying but thats obvious cus there parents names are sarah and arthur thanks for suggestions bacardi xxxxx

Just a quick thought are the children related to Mary A Widdows ???? An Aunt maybe ??? Cheers...Paul

Sorry Bacardi - need to reformat it to make sense :) 1881 sarah e benton married to arthur benton children are jane e kate m e thomas arthur sarah e l lizzie m jessica p william s bertha b mary a all children born sheffield,father born 1843 in b,ham mother born in derby in 1836 in 1901 all these children are living with robert widdows and mary a widdows both born lancashire,all the children are down as there children plus 7 children with the surname widdows also have 1881 for robert and mary widdows,with several of there children so its not a mother or father re-marrying but thats obvious cus there parents names are sarah and arthur thanks for suggestions bacardi xxxxx

1881 sarah e benton married to arthur benton children are jane e kate m e thomas arthur sarah e l lizzie m jessica p william s bertha b mary a all children born sheffield,father born 1843 in b,ham mother born in derby in 1836 in 1901 all these children are living with robert widdows and mary a widdows both born lancashire,all the children are down as there children plus 7 children with the surname widdows also have 1881 for robert and mary widdows,with several of there children so its not a mother or father re-marrying but thats obvious cus there parents names are sarah and arthur thanks for suggestions bacardi xxxxx