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Would the two marriage entries on the same listing numbers have been on the same day/same place. Have found a marriage which I got cert for and her subsequent death cert. Informant was sister in law. Tried to find marriage of sister in law and only possible match comes back with the same ref as the first! Looks like she married first girl's brother. I think all four are buried in the same church so would just like to know if it is likely they were all married on the same day. Thanks in advance Laura

I think you would have to get the certificates to find out. But if its any help I have two brothers marrying on the same day/place - don't think its that uncommon. Anne

What sort of date are you looking at - it could be entirely possible for a double marriage - especially 1800's as time for family gatherings would be strictly limited. Give us the ref's if you want someone to check it for you. regards Looby

This is what I have. Rose Harvey and William Harvey are siblings, have this from census info. Rose married John Easter 22/03/1905 have marriage cert. Ref is Tendring 4a 734 March. Other marriage on that ref is William Harvey and Helen Frances Edwards. Rose died in 1932. Death cert has her still as John Easter's wife and informant is H F Harvey sister in law. I am assuming, rightly or wrongly, that this would be Helen. As the marriage cert ref is the same I wondered if they got married at the same time so I wouldn't have to buy the cert for William and Helen!!!

You could ask the Norfolk RO to check the marriage you have in the parish register and see if the other one is on adjacent entry. A photocopy would be cheaper than £7 for a cert.

Thanks Nell May try that x

The two marriages will be at the same venue as long as the marriage was conducted by a vicar and not a registrar. A registrar would take his register with him when conducting marriages at different non-conformist venues and also use the same register at the registry office. The vicar would use one set of registers for each church. The marriages will also definitely be consecutive, but they wouldn't have to have taken place on the same day. (but I bet they did!!) Merry

Merry The marriage cert I have is the local parish church and a kind person looked up the burials for this graveyard. All four names appear on the burial list. As you say, if the first marriage was at the church, the second one also was. I'm sure they married at the same time, I know the church still stands I wonder if they can tell me! I am just being tight and should pay my £7 to find out for sure!! Thanks for info Laura x

Merry I'm confused. I thought the pages referred to the index made by the GRO not the local registers?

No need to buy either cert if you can get a copy of the Parish Register page: that's the source document for the info that ends up on a cert, so you have No transcriptions intervening - the very best! In addition, you'd get to see the original signatures (or Xs) of the parties to the event. Normally it works out cheaper, as you have only to pay for a photocopy + P&P - although, if someone else is getting it for you, you may have to pay for research time. Christine

Could have been a double wedding . Not so popular now but were quite common years ago as it did share costs !!

Nell.....yes that's right, but how it worked was this.......... (this is marriages) At the end of the Q each registrar would write up special pages for all the marriages he had conducted (these are the pages which were filmed and are where the GRO take their copies from). The sheets he used would have either four marriages to each side of paper up to 1852 and two marriages each side after that. Each C of E vicar would complete the same special pages for all the marriages he had conducted at his church in the same fashion. All these sheets would be sent off to the GRO. The GRO staff would make piles of the record sheets depending on the registration district they had come from. When they had them all, each pile would be stacked in the right order of reg districts for the relevant volume number (ie St George' Hanover Sq would go at the top of pile number 1, because it's always first in Volume 1 in the early years!). The sheets would be numbered consecutively (obviously two numbers for each sheet, front and back), starting with page 1 and running through to the last sheet for the volume number. So........if the Rev Snodgrass had conducted 10 marriages in his church in Q1 1850 he would complete two and a half sides of paper for his special pages (obviously in reality he might do a lot more than 10, but this is to save my fingers and toes). Lets say he was the vicar of St George Hanover Sq. When his pages reached the GRO they would be put in the St George Hanover Sq Reg District pile. Later they would be stacked at the first section of Volume one, as St Geo Hanover Sq always came first until 1852. (the order for Vol 1 was St G H S, Bloomsbury, St James, St Martin, Marylebone, St Pancras, Strand, Westminster) So, the GRO clerk would begin numbering the pages for the Reg district of St Geo H Sq......lets say page 1 to page 30 was for the registrars work and page 31 (four marriages), 32 (four marriages) and 33 (two marriages) for Rev Snodgrass....then page 34 etc for the next persons records, runnign right through to the last entries for Westminster Reg District; the last part of Vol 1. When you see less than 8 names to a page pre-1852 it is not always that they are not all transcribed....often it's that the vicar of registrar didn't have a complete number of full pages at the end of the Q. So....if a vicar fills pages for his own church and you are looking for a double wedding it's like a twin birth, you would expect to see the same page number for both, or one number different at the most. Of course, the last marriage at one venue and the first marriage at another could be on nextdoor page numbers, but they would never be on the SAME page number. *I've forgotten what this thread is about now!....Oh yes, double weddings! lol** Merry

Hi Merry Thanks for all that info, you're a mine of information!! As I have one cert I know pretty much when the other must have occured now but I feel the need to know whether it was on the same day now! I'm sure my life won't be changed by knowing this but have to find out. Thanks for your help Laura x