Genealogy Chat

Germaine Her parents were married in a Catholic Church but she wasnt, and my Dad wasnt a Catholic So a 'lapsed' one maybe who suddenly 'found' her religion if they ran homes, but that sends me off on another track!!

Germaine Exactly!! And yet she was writing letters to her Son so she couldnt have been that bad

cerebral haemorrhageIn medicine, a form of stroke in which there is bleeding from a cerebral blood vessel into the surrounding brain tissue So that could be why she was in an institution as she would be hard to care for. now why all the way up here Germaine x

Olde Crone Why did you have to ask that - i cant spell it - and cant read the cert properly here goes Cerubral Haemorage - or something like that.

I was going to suggest trying Lancashire records office see if they have any records of the work house but i doubt they will have been released yet. Glad it wasn't such a stupid idea. Perhaps that is it, she was too ill and her family couldn't look after her and it was safer up here. Do you have her death cert. Wonder if she had TB or something like that, that could be why she was up here. It is strange though isn't it . Germaine x Oh another idea. Didn't you say she said the sisters were looking after her. Was she a catholic now did the paticular nuns have a sort of rest home and she was sent there by the church. Hope you know what I mean. They would have their own houses for the poor and everything would be paid for by the church. A bit like Nazareth house for orphans.

It may have been that she had some long term condition that prompted the London Authorities to move her to Lancs, because there was room for her there. What was the cause of death? OC

Germaine Nothing is a silly idea!! I just want to know why

Kath As i said previously, she had written to her Son, so its not as if she wasnt in touch with family. She died 1942 aged 64, so would she have been working by then i wonder.? No, no trace at all of anyone in the family being in Lancs, they all seemed to have been born, lived and died in Poplar. She had 2 married daughters, both in Poplar and 4 married Sons, my Dad was the 3rd Son and i know he never went to war so i presume the others were about as well because they were older, it was only the youngest that got sent to Burma and he was 23 at the time.also Grandad was still alive - would love to find out where he was living!!

Only a thought but perhaps she wasn't well and was evacuated up north as it was war time. A lot of people were in workhouses as they couldn't aford to go into a hospital. Sorry if it is a daft idea. Germaine x

If this was in the 1940's, are you sure she didn't move for work (even some married women went aweay to work - land army etc.) Maybe she took ill and no-one could contact her family. The LMA should have records of admittance and discharge from London workhouses, but I can't see her being moved from one in London to another one in Lancashire. Could she have had family living in Lancashire? There could be any number of reasons for moving. Sorry, I know none of this is of any help to you. By the way, no need to apologise. We all post threads and then forget about them sometimes. Kath. x

First of all i would like to apologise to the following Grampa Jim Kathleen Bell Olde Crone Aileen from East London I will be honest - i forgot i put my message on here, went off on another track and just seen all your replies - i am really sorry. At the risk of getting on peoples nerves i will write the info i have again. I have recently 'discovered' a Cousin via GR, she is the daughter of my Dads younger Brother. Her Mum is still alive and has a letter written to her Husband (my Uncle) by my Grandmother in 1941/2 She gave the address as Whiston Infirmary, Whiston Russet, IWhiston Lancs. In the letter she said she was being looked after by 'sisters' The first thing i found out is that there is no such place as Whiston Russet. I did however find a Whiston Hospital. I wrote to them asking if there was anyway i could find out if my Grandmother was a patient in that hospial, i received the reply that it was 'highly unlikely' and that she could have been a patient in Rainhill Asylum, Whiston. I drew a simular blank there from writing to Lancs Records Office. I then decided to see if i could trace Grandmothers death, - (Aunt has said she also died in Lancs) Much to my surprise i found the death registered - under Prescot District, i say surprise because Grandmothers name was Mary Smith!! I know i have the correct one because her home address is given as the same address as shown on her daughters marriage certs some 10 years before. But - her middle name is missing, her husbands name is down as ------- Smith and his occupation as Unknown. So it appears that no-one bothered to contact the family when she died to find out details, even though they had her home address. The address given on the death cert is 1, Warrington Road and the informant was 'the occupier' If the address is put in 'google' it shows web-sites, some are other peoples 'one name' searches, all have got elderly ladies who came from London but died in Lancs. Right out of the blue i received an email the other day from DCS Information and Heritage Knowsley, saying my email had been forwarded on to them. The confirmed that the address was in fact Whiston Hospital and it was comman place in those times to give that actual address and not the name of the hospital (Interesting for the future) The person who registered the death was the Master of Whiston Workhouse. They also said that as was the case with many hospitals they started out as Workhouses and Whiston was originally Prescot Union Workhouse. Many of the workhouses remained until the start of the National Health Service and Welfare State in 1948. This has all been very helpful and interesting, but what i want to know is why was she in Lancs, she had 6 married children and a husband, why would she end up in a workhouse? Did thy split married couples to put them in these places? Knowsley have suggested i check the London Workhouses to see if any discharge papers survived. But what Workhouse? My impression is that there were loads of the places. I have already contacted the area she came under (Poplar) to see if there was some agreement between them and Lancs to move patients but have been told there is no record of such an agreement . As Whiston is not that far from Liverpool i would not have thought Londoners would have been moved from a safety aspect so why move them? This is really bugging me!! Maureen