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2 probs pls help

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maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 Aug 2006 23:55

My great aunt gave birth to a still-born daughter after the death (by 'friendly fire') of my great uncle in WWII. How do I know? My gran hinted, I researched, then found she had put an announcement in the local paper - in the 'births' column!!! Brave lady, but there were many. maggie

hooch

hooch Report 27 Aug 2006 23:44

thats awful :(((((((((((((((((((((((((( how heartbreaking is that :((((((( its like my brother was put in 2 bob corner (as undertakers put it) as did my grandad Webb & all dads siblings that died how sad :(((((((((( Think thats the worse thing about doing ya family tree all the sadness that comes out.

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 27 Aug 2006 22:36

My mother gave birth to a stillborn son in 1953 in Booth Hall Hospital, Manchester. At that time it was customary for the hospital to 'dispose' of stillborn babies. A loony patient in the same ward as my mother, told her that they burned the babies in the furnace in order to make soap. My mother went berserk naturally, and my father arranged 'a proper burial' for my brother. As we never visited a grave, I assume this must have been the same arrangement as Reggie describes. And maybe the other woman wasn't such a loony after all - Booth Hall Hospital was later the subject of an enquiry, relating to using dead babies for research without parental permission. OC

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Aug 2006 22:19

My late sister in law had a stillborn daughter....her husband had to take the babe to the undertaker's to be placed in the coffin of whoever his next 'customer' happened to be. Neither of them ever really got over it, as it was the only pregnancy of the marriage. This was pre-WW2............. Reg

hooch

hooch Report 27 Aug 2006 21:56

awwwww thats so sad :(((((

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Aug 2006 21:55

There is no death registration, as you have to have lived to die, therefore the baby who is stillborn never lived so didn't die. Stillborn babies were often buried with someone else (not necessarily a relative). Kath. x

hooch

hooch Report 27 Aug 2006 21:54

Hi Kath xxxx thank u for that but does the babys death not get registered either and would the baby have been buried?

Unknown

Unknown Report 27 Aug 2006 21:53

Information about the Stillbirths register here: www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/stillbirths/ and for the birth you can't find, I suggest you contact the local register office.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Aug 2006 21:52

A stillbirth in 1932 should have been registered (the stillbirth register started in 1927). However they are not registered in the normal index of births. You have to apply to the GRO at Southport for a special application form to get the stillbirth certificate and only the parents can get this, or the siblings of the stillborn child if the parents are deceased. You may have to look further than 1915 for the birth of grandad's brother. I have couples who carried on having children for over 20 years after marriage. Kath. x

hooch

hooch Report 27 Aug 2006 21:48

1st prob Uncle Lloyd says he was a twin but it was stillborn. Now in 1932 would the birth be registered? and would a death be registered? cus I cant find any reference to a twin!!!!!!!! 2nd prob Uncle Lloyd also said that my grandad had a brother named Lloyd. Cant find that either my grandad was born March 1907 and was the first born. I have searched for a Lloyd Webb born from dec 1907 right upto 1915 and nothing. Help. Luv Angie xxxx

hooch

hooch Report 27 Aug 2006 21:45

Hi Everyone xxxx