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Lokking for a Master Mariner
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Sue in Devon | Report | 14 Aug 2006 20:55 |
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the said sailor being Thomas Ball. birth place given as either Malborough or nearby Salcombe, Devon , born 1844. was a merchant seaman, who appears on the 1851 census with his parents, and makes his next apparance in 1901, as a Master Mariner, his wife Sarah and family appear minus hubby on the 71 81 & 91 census`s. I`ve found royal navy sailors listed under vessels, anyone any idea whether merchant seamen are listed anywhere, By 1869 he was master of ship which sailed to West Indies and Africa, so must have been a fair size, Would the Master of a british merchant ship have been required to take census of the crew if they were in foreign parts? Sue |
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NicolaDunbyNocula | Report | 14 Aug 2006 21:37 |
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Hi Sue Its just a though and not sure whether anything will be listed there, but have you tried the cyndi's lists. http://www(.)cyndislist(.)com/ (remove brackets) Nicola |
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 14 Aug 2006 21:48 |
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I may be wrong but I would have thought if he was in foreign parts no census were taken , I am sure someone will correct me though |
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Glen In Tinsel Knickers | Report | 14 Aug 2006 21:51 |
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No census records were taken for a vessel at sea,if they were i could find my g g/f who was a master mariner too.If the vessel was at a port then the census return was taken but not whilst at sea. Glen |
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Merry | Report | 14 Aug 2006 21:55 |
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The only vessels which has a return made for the UK census despite being at sea were Royal Navy ships. merry |
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Sue in Devon | Report | 14 Aug 2006 22:04 |
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Thanks everyone, I though that might be the answer Sue |
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Kate | Report | 14 Aug 2006 23:06 |
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Sue, I believe that in the later censuses they were supposed to fill in the form even if they were in foreign waters, and hand it in when they returned to England, but not all did. I found my great-grandfather on the Scottish census in 1891, even though his ship appears to have been in English waters, and I can only assume that the ship he was on was Scottish-owned and that was why. So you could try the Scottish census just in case. There are a few merchant mariners in my tree who I have not managed to find on the censuses at all, though. And presumably if the ships they were on were foreign-owned and not in an English / Welsh port, they would not be on our census anyway. On the bright side, Master Mariners were very likely to leave wills! And there is apparently lots of info about them at Kew, but not online yet. Kate. |
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