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And the moral is....... never assume

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Clare

Clare Report 10 Aug 2006 22:26

Just wanted to share this with everyone as I'm so thrilled! I have never been able to find my gg grandfather on the 1861 census. I know he married in 1864 and died in 1866. So I assumed he came to England sometime after 1861, so never looked for him in earlier census. But today, for some reason, I entered his name in the 1851 census and lo and behold whose should be there, my gg grandfather. So now I know his mothers name, (already knew fathers name from marriage cert.) he had a brother and sister and he came from Ireland.

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Aug 2006 22:28

So true. I made a fundamental mistake in thinking someone had died after his daughter's marriage in 1922 and began looking in 1923. He did die after her marriage, but still in 1922, in the last quarter! nell

Val wish I'd never started

Val wish I'd never started Report 10 Aug 2006 22:29

I agree assuming is the worst offence when researching I know to my cost. Good for you

Clare

Clare Report 10 Aug 2006 22:35

Only trouble is everyone of my 3x or 2x grandparents came from Ireland 1840-1850. Any tips for researching them?

Val wish I'd never started

Val wish I'd never started Report 10 Aug 2006 22:43

yes pay someone to do it for you !!!!!!

hallyally

hallyally Report 10 Aug 2006 23:00

Well done! It's so satisfying when something like this happens. Those not interested in all this just don't understand! Allie x

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 11 Aug 2006 04:03

I had been looking for years for the death of my g-g-grandfather, Charles Richards. He lived all his life in Wandsworth, went mad (was described as an ''imbecile'' on the 1881 census!) and by 1891 he was in the Wandsworth Asylum. Couldn't find him in 1901 so assumed that he'd died by then - but no death ref for him anywhere in Wandsworth or surrounding districts. With such a common name, it was impossible to check every Charles Richards death in the country in the 10-year time period. When I finally got to the LMA last year, I checked the admissions/discharges register for the asylum - and, found out that he didn't die in Wandsworth Asylum, but was transferred to Claybury Asylum, Essex in 1893. Sure enough, I then found his death in Romford district, in 1896. So - don't assume that just because your rellie lived their entire life in one area, that that is where they died! And remember that a lot can happen in people's lives in the 10-year period between censuses. Richard

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Aug 2006 07:32

Richard I had a kind of reverse of your search - a great-uncle who was in Claybury, but when he was ill transferred to Oxfordshire to be nearer his sister. Couldn't find a death in the Claybury area, because he died and was buried in Oxfordshire! nell

Just

Just Report 11 Aug 2006 07:57

You can get access to Irish birth records at the Latter Day Saints Family Record Centres, look at www.familysearch.org site to see where your nearest one is. You will need to visit in person but the volunteers there are very helpful. It is a free service but they won't be able to photocopy the birth index page for you if you find what you want. I keep meaning to go back to my local one but I've not had time yet, but I must do it one day. Claire

LoneyBones

LoneyBones Report 11 Aug 2006 08:11

Actually, you can do an on-line search. LDS have millions of christenings and marriages on-line. Very few births and deaths, but they have parish records from all over the world and lots of civil records as well. Very well worth a look at their web site. Leonie.

fraserbooks

fraserbooks Report 11 Aug 2006 09:06

I assumed that one of my great grandfather's borothers had died young as he disappeared after the 1871 census and my mother never mentioned him until I was contacted on here by his grandson. It turned out he had emigrated to America fascinating story.

~*~~*Sylvie*~~*~

~*~~*Sylvie*~~*~ Report 11 Aug 2006 10:20

hi all I assumed my gg grandad was dead in 1894 when his daughter got married because on her marriage cert, it said he was deceased. Then I thought i would check to see where they were living in 1901 and found him alive and kicking. couldn't believe it. it just shows that nothing is a dead cert.....(excuse the pun) Sylvia;-))

Just

Just Report 11 Aug 2006 17:29

Are the Southern Irish birth,death and marriages online at the LDS site? I've used it for UK entries but I needed entries for Southern Ireland. It would be great if those were online as it would save me a journey! Thanks Claire

Teresa With Irish Blood in Me Veins

Teresa With Irish Blood in Me Veins Report 11 Aug 2006 18:35

There are plenty of Births records on line on the LDS site but no guarentee that you will find what you are looking for as they are not complete. I have found records of a couple of my Grandmother's siblings in Dublin and then sent off for the birth certificates from the Irish GRO as I wanted to know where they were living at that time. Unfortunately they could only find one birth being registered, even though the IGI record was an extract from a church record in Dublin. But it's always worth a try. Teresa

Just

Just Report 11 Aug 2006 21:28

Thanks for the info! Claire