Genealogy Chat

I am wondering if she was Esther and not Susan I have found a Esther married to a Abraham Rase mistranscribed with a child Hyam David who was his eldest son maybe she decided to call herself Susan for some reason. Thanks a lot for all your help much appreciated, isnt it quiet on the boards at the moment .

Only one problem is that Flora seems to be a possible connection but she is still with the family in the 1871 census and your Susan is married by then. Mhairi

thanks very much Cheryl I am sure she renamed herself ,and that is the right family I will copy it out and have a good look thanks again

Hi Here's the same family in 1851 no Susan through!!!!!! Coleman Joel 52 Dianna Joel 3 Mo Esther Joel 45 Flora Joel 7 Joel Joel 10 Joseph Joel 16 Miriam Joel 19 Solomon Joel 21 Boo Hoo!!!!! Thought I'd cracked then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheryl

thanks a lot for your help that does look like them I am sure she wasnt named Susan shall have another look at them thanks again Val

Hi Could this be them in 1841? Coleman Joel abt 1801 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex David Joel abt 1826 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Esther Joel abt 1806 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Joel Joel abt 1840 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Joseph Joel abt 1835 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Mark Joel abt 1827 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Rolly Joel abt 1832 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Solomon Joel abt 1829 Middlesex, England Christ Church Spitalfields Middlesex Will see if I can find them in 1851 Cheryl

Name: Flora Joel Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Coleman Mother's name: Esther Gender: Female Where born: Christchurch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Christchurch Spitalfields County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Coleman Joel 52 Dianna Joel 3 Mo Esther Joel 45 Flora Joel 7 Joel Joel 10 Joseph Joel 16 Miriam Joel 19 Solomon Joel 21 Fathers Occupation Furniture Broker. Dont know if this helps in anyway .. Mhairi

thanks Mhairi this family are a real pain in the neck

There is a couple of Coleman Joels on census and if you dont think Susan could be her real name. Do you know what her fathers occupation was. Maybe try households with Coleman in them.. Only a suggestion. Mhairi

thanks Jo Jo and everybody I am wondering if her name wasnt really Susan, it doesnt seem very Jewish does it ???

ooh I am very sorry forgot to say I have her on the census with her husband ,I was hoping to find her with her father before the marriage or her birth sorry I didnt explain myself better I know I would be annoyed too if I was you .

This is her in 1871 Name: Susan Rose Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Abraham Gender: Female Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Emily Box 16 Sarah Box 13 Lydia Lazarus 50 Abraham Rose 31 Charles Rose 4 Hyman Rose 11 Isaac Rose 6 John Rose 2 Miriam Rose 10 months Susan Rose 29 View Original Record View original image

Checked births for 1842-43 no listing for a Susan. JoJo Also checked 1839-41 and 43-44 JoJo

thanks so much for looking she married a Abraham Rose in 1857 Whitechapel it says her father is a Colman Joel general dealer no address on marriage cert

Can't find her on 1851, or Coleman, do you know Mother's name? Ann Glos

Do you have any other info for her.....date of marriage and name of spouse? Address?

I am trying to find a Susan Joel born C 1842 Whitechapel Father Colman Joel either a birth or any census will do thanks so much