Genealogy Chat

Hellooo Bit stuck, again!! I have the above lady appearing in my tree as she married Young Sunderland in Halifax in 1886 and I have foudn them both in 1891 and 1901 and I've got her in 1881 as a servant in Sheffield. But I cant find her anywhere before that and I've trawled 1860 for her birth record but cant fnd it anywhere. From the census info she was born in Dronfield. Can anyone help please? thank you Rebecca x

Is Harriet consistent about her birth year? Have you checked 1st quarter of 1861? Have you looked for all Harriets born Dronfield, or for a baptism on familysearch?

Name: Harriett Damms Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Dronfield, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Dronfield RG10; Piece: 3623; Folio: 84; Page: 23 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Damme 22 George Damms 50 George Damms 8 Harriett Damms 11 Mary Damms 48 Thomas Damms 20

Name: Harriett A Damny Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Dronfield, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Dronfield County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England RG9; Piece: 2537; Folio: 53; Page: 21 Household Members: Name Age Agnus A Damny 12 George Damny 40 Harriett A Damny 1 Isabella M Damny 6 Mary Damny 38 Thomas J Damny 10

Hi Helen Yes I've checked the 1st Q of 1861 too and shes not there either, shes 21 in the 1881 census and 31 in 1891 and 41 in 1901 etc. the only thing family search brings up for her is the link to the 1881 census where shes a servant and nothing else. Stuck stuck stuck stuck :o(

Thank you Christine :o)

Arithmetically the most likely year is 1859: i.e. April 1859 to March 1860. How about this; Name: Harriett Anne Damms Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Chesterfield County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 529 Christine PS - I haven't looked at those images - could be wrong? PPS - If there are mistranscriptions, it would be helpful if you use the reporting option so that future researchers stand a better chance! I found the info by looking for HAR* DAM* born 1851±1 born in Derb*.

There are at least a couple of the children's baptisms recorded on the IGI... Batch C049931 THOMAS JAMES DAMMS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 27 OCT 1850 Dronfield, Derby AGNES ANN DOMMS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 AUG 1848 Dronfield, Derby Christine

Thank you very much Christine - I still cant pull the 1861 census up on 1837 even with lots of different spellings Grrr!!!! lol Thank you

Here she is in 1871 Agnes Damme 22 George Damms 50 George Damms 8 Harriett Damms 11 Mary Damms 48 Thomas Damms 20 RG10; Piece: 3623; Folio: 84; Page: 23 You should be able to get the 1861 image on 1837 with the reference. RG9; Piece: 2537; Folio: 53; Page: 21 Jennifer

The trouble with unusual names is that neither enumerators nor transcribers seem to believe them! Found them in 1851... Name: George Daumes Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Dronfield, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Dronfield Town: Dronfield County/Island: Derbyshire HO107; Piece: 2148; Folio: 498; Page: 8 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Daumes 2 George Daumes 30 Mary Daumes 27 Thomas Daumes 5 Mo Charles Mather 14 James Mather 8 Martha Mather 12 Sarah Mather 39 Sarah Mather 10 Thomas Mather 16

Could this be yours?? GEORGE DAMMS Spouse: MARY HEWITT Family Marriage: 11 MAR 1847 St Peters Parish, Sheffield, Yorkshire with the caveat that this is not a parish registers entry - it's a 'Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church' from GRO index pges... DAMMS George 1847q1 Sheffield XXII-437 HEWITT Mary 1847q1 Sheffield XXII-437 Christine

Thank you very very much :oD

I hope you don't mind my trampling roughshod through your puzzle - I just enjoy puzzles and get a bit persistent when it intrigues me -as yours has done. I've had a go at finding them on 1837 in the 1861 census. I would say that, unless the transcription is incompetent beyond belief, that household isn't there. I've tried pulling up individuals and got nowhere, even without the surname - there's nothing likely so far. There's no Thomas, 10, or George, 40, in Dronfield; no Isabella there at all, or Agnes/Agnus or Harriett (or Harriet, 1); and the only Marys, 38, I can find are Johnson or Whitworth - neither of which resembles Dammy. All those with no surname or PoB selected - just the parish of Dronfield (which does seem to have some residents, according to 1837). Do you have access to Ancestry? Christine

Is that surname a variant of ADAMS? It's the sort of thing that happens to words - including names - when letters are swapped round or dropped from the beginning (or added on) - like (n)orange (think Spanish naranja), or horse (hross, in older German) I'd say it was worth keeping in mind as a possibility, unless you're very certain that it isn't. Christine