Genealogy Chat

1851 Inworth Essex census Jacob Hull b 1813 married to Elizabeth The eldest child Rhoda ,it has something wrote at the side of it , it say,s daughter then above it say,s something else can any one read what it say,s . Cath

mothers side daur by I assume Elizabeth was married before and these were her children from her first marriage Linda

Cath it says Mothers Side, she must be Elizabeth's daughter & not Jacob's. Georgina.

They married in 1840... Marriages Sep 1840 CHIGWELL Elizabeth Witham 12 447 HULL Jacob Witham 12 447 Georgina.

Thanks , This proves what i thought that she was married before .. now all i have to find is who she was married to first .. Cath

'Daughter by mother's sister' ???? i .e. cousin ??? Dea x

I thought finding them in 1841 would help, but the only people I could find were in the Union Workhouse.....ages rounded!!!! 1841: Eliza Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex Elizabeth Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex Rhoda Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex Sarah Ann Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex and the rest were with the Hull family: Mary Ann Cchignell abt 1829 Essex, England Inworth Essex Robert Cchignell abt 1827 Essex, England Inworth Essex Willm Cchignell abt 1838 Essex, England Inworth Essex Elizabeth Hull abt 1806 Essex, England Inworth Essex Jacob Hull abt 1816 Essex, England Inworth Essex Merry

Merry , You have just put a spanner in the works . If Rhoda was one of the children on the 1851 as 'daughter on mothers side ' then why in 1841 was Rhoda in the work house . We must be insane doing this tree lark . Cath

Maybe the children were in the process of leaving the workhouse and the boys had been released before the girls? Most of the records for Witham union have not survived. What has are at the Essex CRO. I can't see a death in Witham district for a candidate for Elizabeth's first husband, given that William was born about 1837/38. (though there are a couple of male Chignalls (not Chigwells) in other parts of Essex.) Surely all those children can't be illegitimate?! Merry

Merry , I only found 2 deaths for male Chignell,s between 1838 and 1840 A James William Chignel Colchester and a William Chignel Rochford . The strange thing is that on the 1861 census children Robert and Wiliam are said to be son-in-law,s Now i have to work out if Elizabeth Hull was there mother or just a relative .

Son's in law to who????? Jacob Hull???? Son-in-law was a term often used for step-son, so that would be right!! Merry

Thanks Merry Well you learn some thing new every day as i did'nt know that . Think i will have to ring Essex records office and see if they can have a look for me . Thanks again Cath