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Geordie Did they marry by Banns or by licence? Either way, someone would have had to give permission for them to marry if both were Minors - the Banns book should have this information, if you can track down the Banns book! OC

Some complete swine of vicars (and I remember an Essex example being quoted) completely ignored instructions and behaved as if the old registers had never been scrapped. Bear in mind that the surname may have been mangled by either enumerator or transcriber. If you have a birthplace, have you looked there in 1841 for all young women of approximately the right age?

Jan , Yes i had noticed those 2 but unfortunatly they are not mine . Paul The idea of Jacob being Elizabeth,s second husband has crossed my mind as on the 1841 censusJacob is only 25 and Elizabeth is 35 ,only problem is i can,t find the marraige for them .to confirm or discard this theory . Cath

Hi Have you considered that Elizabeth may have been widowed and newly married to Jacob Hull Jacob look a little young to have fathered the children shown. Cheers Paul

There seem to be only2 Mary Anns on the IGI might help for exclusion purposes. MARY ANN CHIGNELL Christening: 02 DEC 1827 Saint Leonard, Colchester, Parents: Father: THOMAS CHIGNELL Mother: LUCY MARY ANN CHIGNELL Birth: 01 JUL 1828 Christening: 08 AUG 1830 Helens Lane Meeting House Or Stockwell Chapel-Indecolches, Colchester, Essex, England Father: THOMAS CHIGNELL Family Mother: ELIZTH. Happy hunting! Jan

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and help on this , Got to go out now . Cath

Reg William's family have been traced back to 1705/06 so that wasn't the case for William . Cath

These appear on 1841 Eliza Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex View Record Elizabeth Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex View Record Rhoda Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex View Record Sarah Ann Chignall abt 1836 Essex, England Witham Essex They are in the District Union Workhouse Reg

That would indicate that they didn't know their fathers..............possibly orphaned, or even abandoned by their parents............... Reg

Reg , There were no fathers name given or occupations on the mariage cert , they stated they were both minors at the time . Cath

Hazel , She could have been as you know the 1841 does not give any details but this does not give any clues to who her parents were Cath

The problem for you is that Essex were very unwilling to allow the LDS to have their records. I suspect you'll need to visit the relevant Records Office and search the parish records. The marriage cert should have the father's name and occupation..................do you have the cert? Reg

Might she not be a servant to them, along with her brother? Hazel

Reg, I am trying to find who here parents were Cath

What info are you looking for? Reg

Mary Ann Chignel b. 1829 Inworth married William Harrington b 1826 on 21/10/1845 Inworth both were stated to be minors at the time of marriage. 1851 census has her living with William and 2 children William 3 and Henry 1 also living with them is an Elizabeth Chignel age 20 a visiter . 1841 census the only Mary Ann Chignel that matches is living with a Jacob and Elizabeth Hull along with a Robert Chignel b 1827 I have chcked igi and a couple of members have checked Family History online and bvri. Any ideas on where to try next .

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